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04/26/2004 08:59:26 AM · #1
These are some of the shots I took the other day.
This was a paid job....not a friend or anything.

Critiques and or comments are welcomed.
portraits
04/26/2004 09:05:17 AM · #2
My favs are 4911 and 4884. She looks just like Barbara Striesand(sp). Uncanny.
04/26/2004 09:20:35 AM · #3
rubbish, someone seems to have put a line of text over the image, I wouldn't pay for anything like that.

:-)

Apart from the text they are really good pictures, sobs at own inability to take good people pics....
04/26/2004 09:29:28 AM · #4
Very nice photos! I am sure the family was very happy with the results of your shots.
04/26/2004 09:41:19 AM · #5
My youngest daughter will have her first holy communion this weekend, glad to find your postings. I like #4918, 4884 and 4962. Thanks for the following ideas: Flowers (roses), fill flash and B&W :)

Question: Did you use speedlite flash or the built-in flash?

Message edited by author 2004-04-26 09:43:54.
04/26/2004 09:52:57 AM · #6
4839
4884
Really nice work.....really!
Compliments only.
04/26/2004 10:15:02 AM · #7
wow..so glad to see everyone liking 4884. That is my favorite one!
It might be the worst as far as lighting, but I love it anyway..
The mom loved them, also preferred the b&ws so far.
I used the 420 for the fill for most, but had some trouble with it.
I am not sure if it was a flash problem or human error.
Maybe someone can help me to figure that out. I think I might have put the camera on the wrong settings at times to get the flash to work.

So some shots were without flash, and some with on camera flash but most were with the 420.
04/26/2004 10:22:05 AM · #8
Those are great, I liked 4905 best!
Of course she made it easy for you looked very photogetic and innocent!
04/26/2004 10:26:31 AM · #9
Went to one of these a couple weekends ago. They look so innocent at this age. I like the photos, but several have distracting backgrounds (trees and dark lighting). Good quality images all around though.
04/26/2004 10:29:11 AM · #10
Nice shots Terry! What mode were you shooting in? I noticed your apertures varied quite a bit. Since I almost exclusively shoot in Av or M modes, I'm curious what you were using, and why.

One thing you have to be aware of when shooting flash outdoors is the 1/200th maximum flash cross-sync speed in "normal" mode. If you enable high-speed (FP) sync, now you can use the flash outdoors at shutter speeds over 1/200th (one of the features that Canon has on all of their DSLR's that Nikon doesn't.) I always leave high-speed sync enabled, since I read that below 1/200th, the flash operates normally. (see here for more details on FP sync.)
04/26/2004 10:30:34 AM · #11
Originally posted by tolovemoon:

Those are great, I liked 4905 best!
Of course she made it easy for you looked very photogetic and innocent!

Actually these may look that way...I hope that means I am a good photographer.
She was actually not all that thrilled with taking these...I let her go crazy at the end and do what ever she wanted though. I think a few of these were shot right after that.
04/26/2004 10:38:26 AM · #12
Originally posted by EddyG:

Nice shots Terry! What mode were you shooting in? I noticed your apertures varied quite a bit. Since I almost exclusively shoot in Av or M modes, I'm curious what you were using, and why.

One thing you have to be aware of when shooting flash outdoors is the 1/200th maximum flash cross-sync speed in "normal" mode. If you enable high-speed (FP) sync, now you can use the flash outdoors at shutter speeds over 1/200th (one of the features that Canon has on all of their DSLR's that Nikon doesn't.) I always leave high-speed sync enabled, since I read that below 1/200th, the flash operates normally. (see here for more details on FP sync.)

thanks for the link...I had a lot of problems dealing with the light and the flash.
I switched settings around to see what worked best. I didn't have problems in the past like this. I need to read up on the proper settings for using fill flash. Still just not knowledgeable with it.
I shot in either M AV or P modes for all. But found some were over exposed, and some I couldn't get the flash to fire at all.


Message edited by author 2004-04-26 11:52:11.
04/26/2004 11:54:09 AM · #13
After reading, I now understand about high speed sync...you'd think I would have known that :)
I now realize my problem...I might have had it on that (fp) for many shots, cutting down the output by 1/3. That would be the reason i didn't get enough light on her face, and didn't hear the recycling of the flash...could that be it?
04/26/2004 12:10:06 PM · #14
Those are wonderful prints, Terry. I would be proud to have those hanging on my wall.
04/26/2004 12:49:48 PM · #15
Originally posted by TerryGee:

I now realize my problem...I might have had it on that (fp) for many shots, cutting down the output by 1/3. That would be the reason i didn't get enough light on her face, and didn't hear the recycling of the flash...could that be it?

I don't think so.

Below 1/200th second shutter speed, the flash would fire normally, with no reduction in power because of the high-speed sync. If your shutter speed was 1/2000th second (because of a wide-open aperture, for example), there might be some reduction in power, but because you are just using the flash for "fill" (and not as the main light), it isn't like the flash needs to dump a full-power flash anyway, so it would most likely be capable of giving off several of the short-duration, lower-power flashes.

Do you specifically remember enabling/disabling high-speed (FP) sync on your 420EX by flipping the switch from the green dot to the "lighning-bolt H" setting?

Do you have shots where the EXIF data indicates that (a) the flash fired and (b) your shutter speeds are above 1/200th second, which would be an indication that high-speed sync mode was active?
04/26/2004 01:06:40 PM · #16
Originally posted by EddyG:

Originally posted by TerryGee:

I now realize my problem...I might have had it on that (fp) for many shots, cutting down the output by 1/3. That would be the reason i didn't get enough light on her face, and didn't hear the recycling of the flash...could that be it?

I don't think so.

Below 1/200th second shutter speed, the flash would fire normally, with no reduction in power because of the high-speed sync. If your shutter speed was 1/2000th second (because of a wide-open aperture, for example), there might be some reduction in power, but because you are just using the flash for "fill" (and not as the main light), it isn't like the flash needs to dump a full-power flash anyway, so it would most likely be capable of giving off several of the short-duration, lower-power flashes.

Do you specifically remember enabling/disabling high-speed (FP) sync on your 420EX by flipping the switch from the green dot to the "lighning-bolt H" setting?

Do you have shots where the EXIF data indicates that (a) the flash fired and (b) your shutter speeds are above 1/200th second, which would be an indication that high-speed sync mode was active?


I am pretty sure that a few of the close ones that are above 1/200th are definitely with the 420 flash.
This is one.
It seems that the external flash doesnt show in the exif...
I did probably move the setting, as I had no idea what it was and was trying different settings...and yes I am so bad at reading things before using them :)
I just use them until I have a problem....I guess it took 4-5 months this time...lol

I think the only way to be sure it was my fault vs. a flash malfunction is to try it again under similar conditions. I took all the shots in the park, morning sun, but positioned her in the shade as much as possible. Thats why it was so crutial to get good fill flash with them. Some I did, many I didn't.

Message edited by author 2004-04-26 13:10:04.
04/26/2004 01:07:22 PM · #17
Originally posted by Sonifo:

Those are wonderful prints, Terry. I would be proud to have those hanging on my wall.


Thank you....thats a great complement :)
04/26/2004 01:30:28 PM · #18
Wonderful shots. She has such interesting eyes. My favorites are: 4842, 4884(favorite), 4970, 4962, & 4905. I think it would be very interesting to use 4962 to look back on when she gets married! Just the closeup of her face and the flow of the veil would be great to compare to her wedding portrait years down the road.

You should be proud of these.
04/26/2004 02:53:15 PM · #19
How do you get your flash to work? I went out and tried it and my flash wouldn't come up. I noticed that my flash indoors will only go to 1/200 speed.
04/26/2004 03:14:40 PM · #20
Originally posted by Sonifo:

How do you get your flash to work? I went out and tried it and my flash wouldn't come up. I noticed that my flash indoors will only go to 1/200 speed.

If you want the flash, you press the flash button and it pops up.
But it's the 420 I really have to figure out.
04/26/2004 03:46:31 PM · #21
Hi Terry
Lovely shots..the backgrounds and lighting can be tricky.My favorites in order are 4911,4844,4806...the composition and colors are great.
04/26/2004 04:25:23 PM · #22
terry i think these photos are simply beautiful, the trees, shadows, lighting, composure, everything is just prefect, id be so proud - youve done a great job "bravo" to you!

sincerely,
lelani
04/26/2004 05:06:18 PM · #23
They don't meet the challenge! (No PM's Please!)

Seriously - they are great shots! Innocence well captured. I hope you get paid well.
04/26/2004 06:37:38 PM · #24
Originally posted by EL-ROI:

They don't meet the challenge! (No PM's Please!)

Seriously - they are great shots! Innocence well captured. I hope you get paid well.


Well, I get paid :)
It is my own business, and right now I have set prices low enough to get a client base...hopefully I will be able to raise those prices as time goes on.

04/26/2004 08:48:49 PM · #25
Originally posted by Sonifo:

How do you get your flash to work? I went out and tried it and my flash wouldn't come up. I noticed that my flash indoors will only go to 1/200 speed.

Sonja, you need an EX-series Speedlight to get the high-speed (FP) sync feature. The built-in flash doesn't support that feature, so any flash photos with the built-in flash will be limited to a maximum shutter speed of 1/200th second. Outdoors this can be a real problem, especially if you are trying to shoot your lens with a big aperture to blur the background, etc.

But don't feel bad, the only Nikon DSLR to support the equiavlent of high-speed sync is the D2H. So be happy that your camera is at least capable of it! =]

Terry: I agree that doing some more "controlled" experiments will help you understand how the various flash settings interact.
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