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01/02/2009 12:06:44 PM · #26 |
| What a bummer, I personally love getting JPG. Hopefully there will be something down the road for them. |
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01/02/2009 12:11:46 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by loseme:
What a bummer, I personally love getting JPG. Hopefully there will be something down the road for them. |
Maybe they will come back as RAW Mag. :) |
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01/02/2009 12:18:46 PM · #28 |
This mag shouldn't have failed because the concept is so great. But I can't help but look back and see why I never 'hung-out" there too long or felt the connection that I do with this web-site.
I know a few people that joined JPG but claim to not really "get-it". Kinda like myself.
JPG mag created a competition. Like DPC did. The ultimate reward being that you get printed in their magazine. DPC's ultimate success is arguably being on the front page after one week of voting. So each site has a "prize". But with JPG there is not a "score" given based on how your photo goes over. There is not an indication of whether you were even close ... or really, why a photo gets printed. As far as I'm concerned, it might be a popularity contest - where friends vote people up. I mean even in the DPC forums people (including myself) were asking people to "vote-up" their image.
If casual submittors to JPG received a score and/or an indication of what images did well (much like DPC as I mentioned), I think it would be more appealing to me. I can't speak for others, of course.
I never felt involved with the community there - but I do here ... people will probably respond to this comment in 30 seconds =)
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01/02/2009 12:23:47 PM · #29 |
Hi Tate! :-)
Geez. I never realized you had so many of those shiny ribbons. Quite the collection!
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01/02/2009 12:25:45 PM · #30 |
=)
Hi! Thanks for not making me a liar =) ! ... actually, that took a few minutes. But I think the point is made !
Originally posted by Melethia:
Hi Tate! :-) |
Message edited by author 2009-01-02 12:26:31. |
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01/02/2009 12:27:45 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by ericwoo:
Funny, I did that just as I looked over what I posted. For the record, and in gist, I, Eric, blamed Obama, NOT JPG. All that political BS aside, and without making this into a Rant, I really will miss the mag. It was my absolute favorite.
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If you really don't want this to become a rant then why don't you remove the quote that is still not indicated as your quote at the end of your first post? Seems out of place to the subject anyway and makes little sense. |
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01/02/2009 12:34:22 PM · #32 |
Thanks. Those little icons can cause a person to stand out in the freezing snow ... Almost fall into the lake ... buy huge CF cards ... and do just about anything (including looking like a weirdo throwing rubber gloves in the air 30 times) to acquire one.
Originally posted by Melethia:
Geez. I never realized you had so many of those shiny ribbons. Quite the collection! |
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01/02/2009 12:35:35 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by metatate:
This mag shouldn't have failed because the concept is so great. But I can't help but look back and see why I never 'hung-out" there too long or felt the connection that I do with this web-site.
I know a few people that joined JPG but claim to not really "get-it". Kinda like myself.
JPG mag created a competition. Like DPC did. The ultimate reward being that you get printed in their magazine. DPC's ultimate success is arguably being on the front page after one week of voting. So each site has a "prize". But with JPG there is not a "score" given based on how your photo goes over. There is not an indication of whether you were even close ... or really, why a photo gets printed. As far as I'm concerned, it might be a popularity contest - where friends vote people up. I mean even in the DPC forums people (including myself) were asking people to "vote-up" their image.
If casual submittors to JPG received a score and/or an indication of what images did well (much like DPC as I mentioned), I think it would be more appealing to me. I can't speak for others, of course.
I never felt involved with the community there - but I do here ... people will probably respond to this comment in 30 seconds =) |
I think you summed the fatal weakness well.
I know when I had a shot that was "hot," I was there constantly, looking, voting, commenting, sending other photographers there, etc.
Unfortunately, they used a nebulous at best formula for determining "hot" and that frustrated me. At least here at dpc I know where I stand. I have a score given by my peers, and I know that it is not because I have a bunch of other photog friends voting for me, or some unseen panel choosing.
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01/02/2009 01:22:40 PM · #34 |
Did anyone mention this before?
JPG's failure because of DPC success :P
HAH... hey, that would be a great credit you know :\
Let's call DPC the "New Wal-Mart" of photography :| |
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01/02/2009 02:01:30 PM · #35 |
Keep in mind they also had a major shake-up where the founders of the concept were forced out. I think they lost their way a bit after that.
Here's an open letter from Derek Powazek.
Message edited by author 2009-01-02 14:05:25. |
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01/02/2009 02:25:01 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Keep in mind they also had a major shake-up where the founders of the concept were forced out. I think they lost their way a bit after that.
Here's an open letter from Derek Powazek. |
I read this whole letter. Its sad. But not surprising. I havent been around in the industry for long, but its not unusual for friendships to break up becaus eof ambitious career plans. |
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01/02/2009 02:45:31 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Keep in mind they also had a major shake-up where the founders of the concept were forced out. I think they lost their way a bit after that.
Here's an open letter from Derek Powazek. |
Ah yes, now I remember reading everything on that at the time. Sad :( |
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01/02/2009 02:46:41 PM · #38 |
Their subscription management site is down, but I just wrote them a note in the "other" category, and then I contested the charge on my credit card. I just ordered the end of September, so I only received 1 of my 12 issues in a two year subscription.
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01/02/2009 03:03:35 PM · #39 |
| So, as they suggest, I am downloading from their archives. Since I probably can't get it all, are their any Issues, "Outtakes" or "Sneak Peeks" which are especially good/important that anyone thinks I should prioritize? Right now, I've just started working backwards from the most recent issue. |
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01/02/2009 08:35:34 PM · #40 |
The "Save JPG" link
//savejpg.com/
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01/02/2009 09:01:55 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
The "Save JPG" link
//savejpg.com/ |
Thanks Waddy! :) I left a comment and voted.
I really enjoy JPG! It's not really like DPC, but it has it's place in the art world and it would be sad to see it go away. |
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01/02/2009 09:41:57 PM · #42 |
Apparently they are working on something to keep it alive...
JPG Blog |
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01/02/2009 10:14:04 PM · #43 |
Moved from Member to General Discussion for Mr. Cdrice. :)
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01/02/2009 11:08:53 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
Apparently they are working on something to keep it alive...
JPG Blog |
I donno... eMail is suspicious :\
contact@8020media!?! |
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01/02/2009 11:15:51 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
Apparently they are working on something to keep it alive...
JPG Blog |
I donno... eMail is suspicious :\
contact@8020media!?! |
8020 Media is their publisher. |
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01/02/2009 11:56:12 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
Keep in mind they also had a major shake-up where the founders of the concept were forced out. I think they lost their way a bit after that.
Here's an open letter from Derek Powazek. |
The link explains in detail the 8020 connection. I am wondering myself if the shutdown was a ploy to draw attention, and the motive is to change JPG from a free site into a pay as you go with annual subscriptions to the site. It's not a bad idea if they need the money to keep the site and mag afloat. It just seems like a backdoor way of going about it. After reading the letter in the link, that's the feeling that I got.
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01/03/2009 12:48:48 AM · #47 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
I am wondering myself if the shutdown was a ploy to draw attention, and the motive is to change JPG from a free site into a pay as you go with annual subscriptions to the site. It's not a bad idea if they need the money to keep the site and mag afloat. It just seems like a backdoor way of going about it. After reading the letter in the link, that's the feeling that I got. |
I think there is something strange going on. About 2 to 3 weeks ago they offered me a free subscription and also two other subscriptions to gift out. At that time they HAD to know they were gonna make this announcement. So the timing really just makes me curious. |
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01/03/2009 02:12:21 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by L2:
Moved from Member to General Discussion for Mr. Cdrice. :) |
*hug* You're da'best. ;)
Catching up on this thread, I guess I don't have anything specific to add, other than to concur it's very sad. Like when uber "up and went," I feel bad for the people who are away from their email for a few days... After Monday, they'll be in for an unpleasant surprise; at least we have time to download old issues, keep a snapshot of our comments, etc -- whatever you want to do.
Originally posted by karmat:
I know when I had a shot that was "hot," I was there constantly, looking, voting, commenting, sending other photographers there, etc.
Unfortunately, they used a nebulous at best formula for determining "hot" and that frustrated me. At least here at dpc I know where I stand. |
I also wholehearted agree with  karmat. I actually contacted jpgmag a couple of times asking about their whole "hot photo" gimmick, trying to get an explanation of at least how they thought it was at all fair.
It seems to me, once a specific collection reaches a large number of submissions, the whole "hot photo" idea makes it pretty unlikely your new photo submission will be seen. Since "hot" photos were always on the front page for voting, guess which photos are going to be seen more and voted on? (Which, in turn, would keep them "hot"...)
The voting scheme here at dpc makes perfect sense, and you know what you've voted on and what you haven't, etc. I just don't "get" how they expected their voting methods to give anyone a fair shake. Granted, there were a lot of photos to vote on, and few people would probably want to vote on *all* of them in every challenge -- but it seems like at least a "random" voting presentation would be a much better and more fair idea than a "Oh -- these photos getting lots of votes - you should vote for them, too!" method...
ETA -- I did find it funny to hear several comments in the audio tracks in the new NYIP curriculum regarding JPG Magazine. They don't refer to it directly by name (intentionally), but it's very obvious who they are discussing. They refer to it, in concept, as being rather surprising and express concerns how it can possibly stay afloat. I actually felt a little smug listening to their comments and thinking "Ha! What did they know -- it looks like it's going great to me!" Ooopsie. Ha, what did *I* know?
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01/03/2009 03:06:53 AM · #49 |
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01/04/2009 06:49:36 PM · #50 |
If anyone wants them and doesn't get them all before jpgmag.com shuts down, I have downloaded all the files (both HTML and PDF) from the downloads and archives pages. I'll be happy to forward any you missed, etc. -- PM me here if you wish.
Note that if you have downloaded these yourself, "The Ones That Got Away" page is *not* referenced on the archive page -- only the downloads page; so you might have missed it.
Site is VERY slow to respond today -- must be lots of folks downloading those files. ;)
Message edited by author 2009-01-04 18:52:24. |
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