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01/08/2009 10:56:33 AM · #26 |
A Watt is Joule/Sec if that clarifies anything.
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01/08/2009 10:59:34 AM · #27 |
| So wait, should I power it with a tesla coil or can I just use the Vagabond II I bought instead? |
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01/08/2009 11:09:15 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
So wait, should I power it with a tesla coil or can I just use the Vagabond II I bought instead? |
Maybe use a flux capacitor. I hear 1.21 Gigawatts is enough to power a Delorean through time travel. Should be fine for a few strobes.
Sorry to have started the whole watt vs. w/s debate. Not my intention, just wanted clarity.
Damn it to hell. |
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01/08/2009 11:15:33 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by Schnitzer17:
[quote=ajdelaware]
Sorry to have started the whole watt vs. w/s debate. Not my intention, just wanted clarity.
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Now I have to chime in.
You didn't read the whole thread, or the "debate".
It wasn't about watt vs. Watt Sec at all.
The debate is about 'measuring' power with Watts.
Get it right if your going to put down a member only after 6 months being here on DPC.
Don't bother to respond.
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01/08/2009 11:16:47 AM · #30 |
| Yeah, you have to have at least 1 year and 300 posts and 40 challenge entries to put down a member. And even then, you have to get said put down verified by the SC and approved by the Rant forum moderator. Duh. |
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01/08/2009 11:21:11 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
Do me a favor SPAZ.
Take a meter, amp probe, voltage meter, doesn't matter.
Tell me if there is a Wattage setting.
Take that same meter, get a battery, or a generator even, and measure the Wattage.
Get back to me. |
I have a variety of Wattmeters in the equipment cabinet right now. They measure electrical power.
ETA: Duh.
Message edited by author 2009-01-08 11:21:59. |
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01/08/2009 11:23:04 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
So wait, should I power it with a tesla coil or can I just use the Vagabond II I bought instead? |
No no no, you've got it all wrong. This is why they have umbrellas on strobes, see, to attract the lighting that powers them! |
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01/08/2009 11:25:55 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
Sorry to be corrective Spazmo, however, Watts are a measure of output.
Volts are a measure of power, or produced current.
Amps are a measure of power consumed, or current flowing. |
Wandering in late to the party, this is quite far from the truth.
Watts are a measure of power.
Watt seconds are a measure of energy. (or power used over time)
Volts are a measure of potential difference or voltage
Amps are a measure of current, or the rate of flow of electrical charge.
P=VI
Power equals Voltage multiplied by Current.
In units those are Watts = Volts * Amps
Ohm's Law. It is a fairly fundamental principle in electronics and electrical engineering.
Message edited by author 2009-01-08 11:31:06. |
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01/08/2009 11:30:29 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
Originally posted by ajdelaware:
So wait, should I power it with a tesla coil or can I just use the Vagabond II I bought instead? |
No no no, you've got it all wrong. This is why they have umbrellas on strobes, see, to attract the lighting that powers them! |
Hey Prof - how was your recycling time on your vagabond? I had a 750w travelite on it last night, at 1/4 power and it was like 4 seconds, is that decent? |
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01/08/2009 11:40:43 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
Sorry to be corrective Spazmo, however, Watts are a measure of output.
Volts are a measure of power, or produced current.
Amps are a measure of power consumed, or current flowing. |
Wandering in late to the party, this is quite far from the truth.
Watts are a measure of power.
Watt seconds are a measure of energy. (or power used over time)
Volts are a measure of potential difference or voltage
Amps are a measure of current, or the rate of flow of electrical charge.
P=VI
Power equals Voltage multiplied by Current.
In units those are Watts = Volts * Amps
Ohm's Law. It is a fairly fundamental principle in electronics and electrical engineering. |
I did not say that you could not figure out the watts.
The debate is MEASURING POWER through WATTS.
AGAIN, take a battery, or a generator. Tell me what the WATTS are.
Get back to me.Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
Do me a favor SPAZ.
Take a meter, amp probe, voltage meter, doesn't matter.
Tell me if there is a Wattage setting.
Take that same meter, get a battery, or a generator even, and measure the Wattage.
Get back to me. |
I have a variety of Wattmeters in the equipment cabinet right now. They measure electrical power.
ETA: Duh. |
A Wattage monitor maybe, but, there is no such animal as a watt meter that measures power.
Message edited by author 2009-01-08 11:41:07.
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01/08/2009 11:49:24 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
The debate is MEASURING POWER through WATTS.
AGAIN, take a battery, or a generator. Tell me what the WATTS are. |
Yes, power is measured using watts.
Depends on the load. Under load, you can connect a power meter and measure the watts directly.
Without load, there is just stored potential and a rated power, based on the maximum current the battery
can sustain without damage.
Ohm's law again. The load (typically resistive) is required, otherwise the current flow is zero, hence the power used is zero.
P=VI, V=IR, I=V/R, P=I^2 &R and so on.
Load is required, but you can still evaluate the maximum power output (watts) that a source is capable of providing.
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
A Wattage monitor maybe, but, there is no such animal as a watt meter that measures power. |
another 'huh?' I used them quite often in my power engineering classes. You can either measure instantaneous power (watts), or energy usage over time (watt-seconds/ watt-hours etc). You just have your basic definitions slightly garbled is all. The statements you made earlier on that I responded to have most of the terms mixed up.
Message edited by author 2009-01-08 11:51:55. |
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01/08/2009 11:55:31 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
Sorry to be corrective Spazmo, however, Watts are a measure of output.
Volts are a measure of power, or produced current.
Amps are a measure of power consumed, or current flowing. |
Wandering in late to the party, this is quite far from the truth.
Watts are a measure of power.
Watt seconds are a measure of energy. (or power used over time)
Volts are a measure of potential difference or voltage
Amps are a measure of current, or the rate of flow of electrical charge.
P=VI
Power equals Voltage multiplied by Current.
In units those are Watts = Volts * Amps
Ohm's Law. It is a fairly fundamental principle in electronics and electrical engineering. |
I did not say that you could not figure out the watts.
The debate is MEASURING POWER through WATTS.
AGAIN, take a battery, or a generator. Tell me what the WATTS are.
Get back to me.Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
Do me a favor SPAZ.
Take a meter, amp probe, voltage meter, doesn't matter.
Tell me if there is a Wattage setting.
Take that same meter, get a battery, or a generator even, and measure the Wattage.
Get back to me. |
I have a variety of Wattmeters in the equipment cabinet right now. They measure electrical power.
ETA: Duh. |
A Wattage monitor maybe, but, there is no such animal as a watt meter that measures power. |
Wattmeter
Note the name "Wattmeter" not watt "monitor"
Here's one for sale...You should call them up and tell them they're selling a product that doesn't exist.
There are more flavors of Wattmeters including portable multimeter styles and clamp-on meters. If you're interested, you can google it.
Message edited by author 2009-01-08 11:57:02. |
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01/08/2009 11:55:44 AM · #38 |
Arguing over watts - how shocking!
Hey, why not relax and calm down. What's the problem? Why all the heavy duty attitude?
This is a fun place where we can all share knowledge and exchange ideas. It is not a place to argue, demean, and fight.
As a veteran DPCer yourself, you know that already. So, welcome and embrace the new members and help them find their way. There is no need to respond so harshly. Life is far too short. Put on a smile and offer a helping hand, do not beat them all up.
By the way, everyone has the right to respond. There is no monopoly on getting in the last word...here are a few wise words to ponder.
"Flatter me, and I may not believe you. Criticize me, and I may not like you. Ignore me, and I may not forgive you. Encourage me, and I will not forget you."
~ William Arthur Ward
So, be the best DPC ambassador that you can.
Cheers,
Michael
Originally posted by Man_Called_Horse:
Originally posted by Schnitzer17:
[quote=ajdelaware]
Sorry to have started the whole watt vs. w/s debate. Not my intention, just wanted clarity.
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Now I have to chime in.
You didn't read the whole thread, or the "debate".
It wasn't about watt vs. Watt Sec at all.
The debate is about 'measuring' power with Watts.
Get it right if your going to put down a member only after 6 months being here on DPC.
Don't bother to respond. |
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01/08/2009 11:57:50 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by Morgan:
Arguing over watts - how shocking! |
No pun intended.
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01/08/2009 12:01:16 PM · #40 |
Of course a pun was intended, I just wish I could of dream up a better one. My better 1/3rd groans every time I try to be funny. So, I hear a lot of groaning in my life.
In fact, lately she has started to introduce me as her "current " husband. Should I be worried...
Cheers,
Michael
Originally posted by goinskiing:
Originally posted by Morgan:
Arguing over watts - how shocking! |
No pun intended. |
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01/08/2009 03:36:14 PM · #41 |
Good luck to the original poster with your new purchase.
As for the debate, you guys inspired me to get out my very-dusty electrical books to help me sort through it for myself.
A wattmeter is an instrument designed to measure electric power.
You are not measuring watts, you are measuring electrical power.
1 watt is the power expended when 1 volt moves 1 coulomb per second through a conductor.
1 volt at 1 ampere produces 1 watt of power.
A watt is the basic unit of elctrical power.
Clear as mud. |
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01/08/2009 03:56:36 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by Marjo:
Good luck to the original poster with your new purchase.
As for the debate, you guys inspired me to get out my very-dusty electrical books to help me sort through it for myself.
A wattmeter is an instrument designed to measure electric power.
You are not measuring watts, you are measuring electrical power.
1 watt is the power expended when 1 volt moves 1 coulomb per second through a conductor.
1 volt at 1 ampere produces 1 watt of power.
A watt is the basic unit of elctrical power.
Clear as mud. |
You could just as easily say that a voltmeter isn't measuring Volts, it measures electric potential,
Or an ammeter isn't measuring Amperes, it measures electrical current.
Or a ruler isn't measuring inches, it's measuring distance. |
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01/08/2009 04:01:31 PM · #43 |
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01/08/2009 04:33:10 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by Marjo:
Exactly. ;) |
Actually, a voltmeter measures electrical pressure and an ammeter measures electron flow.
Perhaps it's just how you look at it or how anal technical you want to get.
;) |
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01/08/2009 04:39:43 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Marjo:
Originally posted by Marjo:
Exactly. ;) |
Actually, a voltmeter measures electrical pressure and an ammeter measures electron flow.
Perhaps it's just how you look at it or how anal technical you want to get.
;) |
If you need to use the piping system analogy to understand circuits, you could call it that, but it's not really correct. |
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