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04/23/2004 07:02:26 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by ellamay:
the one i ordered apparently comes with a photographer and an assistant to carry around extra equipment. |
Lynn did you order from Henry's? The price is now very comparable to the US price when you do the conversion, I guess Canon took into account the new exchange rates...shucks...no shopping trip south of the border. |
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04/23/2004 08:11:41 PM · #27 |
no i ordered from leo's, i think they are cousins : )
I am in vancouver, where is henry? |
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04/23/2004 09:25:22 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by ellamay:
no i ordered from leo's, i think they are cousins : )
I am in vancouver, where is henry? |
Henry's in Ontario, big store in Toronto and smaller one in Ottawa, they have it listed at C$5899.99, free shipping... |
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04/24/2004 09:44:18 PM · #29 |
I was quoted 5500.oo but I do have to walk 6 blocks to the store : )
and I see EDDY G has one already!!! where are the test shots ??? |
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04/24/2004 09:49:57 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by ellamay:
I was quoted 5500.oo but I do have to walk 6 blocks to the store : )
and I see EDDY G has one already!!! where are the test shots ??? |
C$5500.00??!! That's a great price! Just over US$4k!
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04/24/2004 10:01:53 PM · #31 |
Actually, the battery is done charging, and I'm just now making my way through the manual trying to understand this thing. It is significantly different than the 10D... and since there is no "Green Square" mode, I can't use it like a point-and-shoot. 
Some of the biggest reasons I moved up from the 10D:
1) 1.3X crop factor. The bigger and brighter viewfinder is terrific! 1.3X seems like a great compromise between full-frame and the 1.6X crop factor on the other end. It allows my 16-35 to function as a 21-45mm (which is pretty wide, considering the Sigma 12-24 on a 10D is 19-38 equivalent), gives a little bit of boost on the telephoto end and still avoids the outer edges of the imaging circle, which are always the weakest part of any lens. (And you can buy interchangeable focusing screens for $30!)
2) Fast, accurate 45-point auto focus. I like to shoot "events" where there is a lot of action (sports, dog shows, etc.) The 45-point AF was very highly regarded in the original 1D, and the same sensor array is used in the Mark II, except the focusing logic has been upgraded to be even faster thanks to a dual 32-bit RISC CPU design. It has the same focusing precision as the 1D with stationary subjects, but its accuracy and precision during predictive focus in AI Servo AF is better than the 1D, especially for single frames or the first frame in a continuous-drive sequence.
3) High-precision AF sensors. The AF sensor array in Canon's pro bodies features some "high precision" sensors. This means that with any lens that has an aperture of Æ’/2.8 or faster, the focusing accuracy is greatly improved over the "normal precision" sensors (with "slow" lenses, these high-precision, off-center cross sensors don't improve accuracy and act as "standard precision" sensors.) Canon's high-precision AF sensors provide 3 times the precision of the normal-precision ones. (A standard precision sensor "produces focusing accuracy within the depth of focus for the lens' maximum aperture". A high-precision AF sensor produces focusing accuracy within 1/3 the depth of focus.
(Incidentally, I read out about the Æ’/2.8 requirement for the high-precision sensors while I was waiting for my 10D to ship and is one of the reasons I've only bought Æ’/2.8 and faster lenses, including recently going with the 16-35/2.8L over the 17-40/4L.)
4) E-TTL II! This will be a huge benefit for moving and off-center subjects. From what I've read/seen so far, this will greatly help in getting nice flash exposures, especially in tricky situations like weddings where the bride is in white and the groom is wearing black. I have a wedding (as a guest) on May 7th, so I'll get a feel for how it works compared to my 10D pretty soon. (If you haven't seen any E-TTL II samples, check out this review and scroll down to the picture of the girl sitting at the piano. Direct flash, no bounce.)
5) 8.5 frames per second / 40 frame buffer. This goes hand-in-hand with shooting fast-moving events. Nice to have when you need it. And the burst rate is customizable, so you can select 5 fps, etc. (If you don't know what 8.5 fps sounds like, click here to listen to a 63-shot burst in 9 seconds. =]) And no waiting for the buffer to write to the CF card; you can review chimp images at any time. (The camera is very responsive!)
6) 8.2 megapixels will be a nice benefit for larger prints... but not so good for disk usage or shots-per-CF-card, especially when shooting in raw mode. =]
7) Separate R-G-B histogram. No more over-saturating a single color channel and not realizing it; you can set an option to view separate RGB histograms during "image review".
8) Weather sealed. There are over 70 weather seals on the camera, and almost all of my glass is also sealed, so I won't be as hesitant to use it in varying weather conditions.
9) Great high-ISO performance. The 10D is really good at high ISOs, which is an unfortunate necessity when shooting a lot of indoor events. The 1DM2 is even more improved in this regard.
10) Voice Annotations. This is kinda cheesy, but I can see where this could come in handy in a variety of situations where you want to make notes about a shot, location, subject, etc.
I'm sure as I get more familiar with the camera there will be lots of other "surprise and delight" features I discover...
Message edited by author 2004-04-24 22:21:11. |
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04/24/2004 10:12:42 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by EddyG:
8) Weather sealed. There are over 70 weather seals on the camera, and almost all of my glass is also sealed, so I won't be as hesitant to use it in varying weather conditions. |
You coulda stress tested that today at Fossil Rim...
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04/24/2004 10:22:46 PM · #33 |
the fast part is what I want it for, I am looking forward to not missing the heron as it flies over my head : )
but no point and shoot mode, looks like another long painful learning curve til I can get a decent shot. The weather sealing will be great too living in a rain forest. Can't wait til they get here.... |
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04/24/2004 10:42:15 PM · #34 |
| ummm, eddy , (20 minutes later) did you say NO green mode?? can i assume then no complete dummy mode? no landscape? no portrait? it s all umm whats that word.....manual only? |
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04/24/2004 10:44:51 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by ellamay:
ummm, eddy , (20 minutes later) did you say NO green mode?? can i assume then no complete dummy mode? no landscape? no portrait? it s all umm whats that word.....manual only? |
I'm afraid you need to preheat the sensor with a bunsenbrenner too, ella.
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04/24/2004 10:48:12 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by ellamay:
ummm, eddy , (20 minutes later) did you say NO green mode?? can i assume then no complete dummy mode? no landscape? no portrait? it s all umm whats that word.....manual only? |
Correct, there are no "Basic Modes" at all, just the equivalent of the "Creative Modes" on the 10D/Rebel: P, Tv, Av, and M. (Even the "DEP" mode of the 1D was removed because Canon felt it didn't get enough use.) |
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04/24/2004 10:53:20 PM · #37 |
Reason 11: You can afford it, I can't!!
lol
Eddy, you keeping the 10D as a backup, or getting rid of it?
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04/25/2004 12:38:48 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by buzzrock:
Eddy, you keeping the 10D as a backup, or getting rid of it? |
Although I'd love to keep it as a backup (so I could have two bodies at some events) financials dictate that I sell the 10D and stuff I'm not going to use with the 1D.
So, I've put together this "package" and am going to offer it to a friend locally:
Canon EOS-10D body, BG-ED3 Battery Grip, 3 additional batteries (4 total), SanDisk 512MB Ultra CompactFlash card, Op/Tech Pro-Strap and Canon 24-85mm/3.5-4.5 USM lens. I have all of the original boxes, packing material, manuals, etc. for everything. (Bought new from B&H today, that would total $2134.70 + shipping.)
If he isn't interested, I'll try to sell it via the 'net.
I'm going to sell my Kirk BL-10DG L-bracket separately.
Message edited by author 2004-04-25 12:39:36. |
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04/25/2004 01:48:39 PM · #39 |
got any sample shots yet Eddy?
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04/25/2004 02:53:57 PM · #40 |
I saw four 1D MK2 5 days ago in Oslo.
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04/25/2004 11:44:45 PM · #41 |
can ya send me one? : )
(just kidding) |
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04/26/2004 10:13:17 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by Nazgul:
got any sample shots yet Eddy? |
Not really. This weekend was just too busy. Although I did spend some time just learning how to operate the camera. As I said before, the "user interface" is quite a bit different than the 10D. In most instances, everything requires one hand to hold a button (or in some cases, two) while the other hand turns a wheel. Takes a little getting used to coming from the 10D where it is more "push button, let go, spin dial, push button". I'm guessing the 1D UI is the way it is for two reasons: 1) speed. Push-and-hold/make-adjustment/let-go saves the extra button push to "acknowledge" the setting. 2) Less chance of accidentally adjusting a setting. Apparently the operation of all of Canon's 1-series bodies (film and digital) are very similar, making it easy for photographers who use 1-series stuff to switch amongst their gear.
I did upload the very first picture I took with the 1DM2 though. This is exposure 100-0001:
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