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11/29/2008 02:36:52 AM · #1
This could really go into Hardware and Software as well, but I guess I'm more curious about whether people have done this at all and what their impressions have been. In the end, the higher end folks aren't really going with a setup much cheaper than the SLR lens route, but it's an interesting approach.
Anybody really messed with this much?
11/29/2008 05:19:14 AM · #2
My dad does, but unfortunately I don't know much about it myself. I know he uses a damn nice scope with a little point and shoot on the end usually. He gets some pretty good results.

He stalked a Prairie Falcon family for awhile. He's used the set up for lots of photos on his site, but this is the only set I'm fairly sure of.
Prairie Falcon Nest

If you don't get much of a response here and have questions, I can pass them on to my dad if you'd like.
11/29/2008 07:56:11 AM · #3
Well, I guess the information regarding the hobby was readily available to me, but I was curious if anybody here, who was more a photographer than a birder, had gotten into it. The folks I found that did it online seemed to be birders first and photographers second, so I was sorta wondering what people who were photographers first though. Some of those digiscopers are running $2500+ Swarovski scopes with 30D's and 400D's attached, while others are perfectly happy (if not happier) using just a simple P&S on the end. Some of the results are pretty high quality that I found, but at the point that you hit a $2500 scope, why not just drop that on a lens? You still need a tripod, so I was wondering if any photographers had gone this route to be slightly cheaper, or really just people's opinions on the whole thing.
11/29/2008 08:25:39 AM · #4
Originally posted by aliqui:

My dad does, but unfortunately I don't know much about it myself. I know he uses a damn nice scope with a little point and shoot on the end usually. He gets some pretty good results.

He stalked a Prairie Falcon family for awhile. He's used the set up for lots of photos on his site, but this is the only set I'm fairly sure of.
Prairie Falcon Nest

If you don't get much of a response here and have questions, I can pass them on to my dad if you'd like.


Great shots.

Digiscoping is the use of a telescope to photograph Earthly objects? First time I hear the term.
11/29/2008 11:57:39 AM · #5
A good friend of mine here in Madison is a fanatical birder and digiscoper. He does all his work with a quality swarofsky spotting scope coupled to a Nikon P&S digital.

Check him out.
11/29/2008 12:28:12 PM · #6
They do get some good shots through a scope, but I think the limiting factor is the effective F-stop. It's usually around F/8 if I recall correctly, pretty slow for the money you put into the scope. Hard to get it sharp at those speeds.
11/29/2008 12:35:49 PM · #7
Here is a web page from the slovenian digiscope photographer Marjan Cigoj with some excellent photographs and setup description:
//digiskopija.si/anglo/digiscoping.html
11/29/2008 04:46:53 PM · #8
In the response to the question "why", I called dad!

Dad says...
"...you can get a longer focal length. You'd have to have a 600mm with a 1.4 tele-extender to get the same results. There's no mirror slap, so you don't need a super duper tripod. Besides, most birders have the scopes already anyway. In the long run it's just much, much cheaper."

Oh, he also said that Zeiss is coming out with a scope specifically designed to digiscope, and it will have its own camera that comes with it. He said one of the biggest problems he has is aligning his camera on the scope.

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11/29/2008 05:25:52 PM · #9
aliqui's dad has it right. Digiscopers are able to get insane focal lengths for very few $$$. This usually works out because most birders already have good spotting scopes and they spend most of their photography time in bright sunlight.
11/29/2008 10:25:38 PM · #10
I guess I didn't consider them already having the scopes in the first place, and, in that case, it is way cheaper. I was looking at it from a starting point stance. I agree some of the digiscope photos are amazing. There's a Flickr group I stumbled upon that has some pretty sweet stuff on it.

Message edited by author 2008-11-29 22:26:00.
11/29/2008 10:51:46 PM · #11
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

I guess I didn't consider them already having the scopes in the first place, and, in that case, it is way cheaper. I was looking at it from a starting point stance. I agree some of the digiscope photos are amazing. There's a Flickr group I stumbled upon that has some pretty sweet stuff on it.


From a starting standpoint it's cheaper to digiscope too. Like my dad said, you'd need a 600mm lens with a tele-extender on it to come close to what his scope does. That's more than a couple grand. The cheapest 600mm lens I saw on BH is over 7 grand.
11/30/2008 02:50:28 PM · #12
Here's a link to that Zeiss scope with the integrated digital camera that's coming out.

Carl Zeiss PhotoScope

12/01/2008 06:39:17 PM · #13
I disagree about it being cheaper. On that Zeiss, you are getting a focal length of between 600 and 1800 on 35mm format. You can pick up a used Nikon 400 3.5 used and in good condition for 1100 or so, plus a tele, and put yourself smack in the middle of that range for a thousand less with only a minor loss of speed. If you can find a mirror reflex lens, the reach and price difference is even greater. I've seen 1000mm reflex lenses for prices right around that range too, and granted the speed is lower, you don't need a tele on top of that. Yes it's slower, but if we're talking about a budget setup, that is your first sacrifice anyway. But if you've already thrown two grand at a top notch birding scope, you might as well just slap a P&S on the end.
12/01/2008 07:12:10 PM · #14
I use a Coolpix 990 and Pentax ED 20-60x 80mm Spotting Scope occasionally. (cost of the scope 750.00 Coolpix ? now. Mostly to confirm rarities at a distance.

Here are some examples: mostly at 20x zoomed enough to remove lens circle, usually at 400 ASA. f5 or 6, at least 1/400





Message edited by author 2008-12-01 19:12:46.
12/01/2008 07:39:49 PM · #15
Fascinating.
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