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 08/28/2008 11:42:58 PM · #1
//img165.imageshack.us/img165/6275/blinddogou6.jpg

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 08/28/2008 11:44:22 PM · #2
well
hes either squinting or has no eyes
and i could do without the table and chairs in the background, more grass, and less...fence etc as well to name a few
(you asked!)

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 08/28/2008 11:48:01 PM · #3
The dog has no eyes.
 08/28/2008 11:48:51 PM · #4
I suppose the composition isn't ideal.
 08/28/2008 11:49:09 PM · #5
one of the dogs at a clinic i worked for had no eyes either, his condition was pretty severe they had to take out both
- its still the happiest dog ive seen however

anyways, for me the background is too cluttered
08/28/2008 11:52:10 PM · #6
I think a better angle would have been nice, I like it better when shots are taken on their level with a nice background shot with a low DOF to bring the dog out more.

shots not shats....lol

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 08/28/2008 11:59:39 PM · #7
It's the light. The background is lit and the subject is dark.
 08/29/2008 12:00:20 AM · #8
Yeah, the lighting is not optimal.
 08/29/2008 12:09:46 AM · #9
I agree the lighting is not great.
I would prefer to see the dog photographed, without the Table and Chairs in the way, and on the grass, rather then the brown pavers, which the dog can blend into. The dog, in the sun, on the green grass for contrst, with a narrow Depth of field such that the background is not in focus would work better.
As it is, there is too much in the photo to detract from the main subject.
 08/29/2008 12:37:21 AM · #10
As you may have already surmised, what really hurts the photo is all of the stuff in the background. Obviously the focus of the shot should be the dog, but it took me a few minutes to realize the dog actually has no eyes. No disrespect to the dog, but I should have noticed that right away.

That being said, I've found that many technical errors can be forgiven if the shot tells a good story. Again, I mean no disrespect to your dog, and am very much a dog lover myself. But this is obviously a special dog. Are you capturing a proud dog, one that lives life to the fullest even with it's disability, is he sad and intended to tug on my heartstrings? With the current composition, I'm not exactly sure how I'm supposed to feel, and sometime you have to lead us by the nose.

Incorporating some suggestions that were already made. Nix the chairs, get down low with the cobblestones as the foreground with the shot angled up towards the dog, and you've got a proud and determined beast. Put him out in the yard with tongue out and a ball or something, and you've got fun in spite of it all. Lying with head on paws, with a very low to the ground shot with the head in the foreground, and you're ripping my heart out. Etc.

Hope I haven't gone on and on and bored ya! I just feel like this dog's got stories, and i don't know what they are!
 08/29/2008 12:50:40 AM · #11
what is he or she's name
 08/29/2008 12:55:49 AM · #12
I think the dog is lovely despite it's vision predicament and it makes a nice subject. The light is simply too flat what with being in the shade, I agree with the suggestion to move the furniture outta the way next time and I'd get him out in the sunshine on the lovely green grass.
 08/29/2008 12:56:36 AM · #13


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 08/29/2008 01:47:27 AM · #14
this dog will probably benefit from HDR
 08/29/2008 02:38:21 AM · #15
Originally posted by crayon:
this dog will probably benefit from HDR

or THC
 08/29/2008 03:33:39 AM · #16
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by crayon:
this dog will probably benefit from HDR

or THC

yep, nothing like a bit of THC to all voters :)
 08/29/2008 08:35:30 PM · #17
Originally posted by kaiser_chief:
I agree the lighting is not great.
I would prefer to see the dog photographed, without the Table and Chairs in the way, and on the grass, rather then the brown pavers, which the dog can blend into. The dog, in the sun, on the green grass for contrst, with a narrow Depth of field such that the background is not in focus would work better.
As it is, there is too much in the photo to detract from the main subject.
Just let me say that this was not a photoshoot. The dog wasn't mine and untrained.
 08/29/2008 08:38:06 PM · #18
Originally posted by Jaker:
As you may have already surmised, what really hurts the photo is all of the stuff in the background. Obviously the focus of the shot should be the dog, but it took me a few minutes to realize the dog actually has no eyes. No disrespect to the dog, but I should have noticed that right away.

That being said, I've found that many technical errors can be forgiven if the shot tells a good story. Again, I mean no disrespect to your dog, and am very much a dog lover myself. But this is obviously a special dog. Are you capturing a proud dog, one that lives life to the fullest even with it's disability, is he sad and intended to tug on my heartstrings? With the current composition, I'm not exactly sure how I'm supposed to feel, and sometime you have to lead us by the nose.

Incorporating some suggestions that were already made. Nix the chairs, get down low with the cobblestones as the foreground with the shot angled up towards the dog, and you've got a proud and determined beast. Put him out in the yard with tongue out and a ball or something, and you've got fun in spite of it all. Lying with head on paws, with a very low to the ground shot with the head in the foreground, and you're ripping my heart out. Etc.

Hope I haven't gone on and on and bored ya! I just feel like this dog's got stories, and i don't know what they are!
Yeah, that's my feeling exactly: The dog is a great subject. Unfortunately, even though I took about 20 shots of Sandy, this was the only one that I got a really good body/face shot.
 08/29/2008 08:41:21 PM · #19
Originally posted by crayon:
this dog will probably benefit from HDR
Yes.
 08/29/2008 08:49:44 PM · #20
I'm going to post another version of this photo soon... I want to see if I can correct the light with photoshop..
 08/30/2008 07:09:18 AM · #21
Okay, it's been photoshopized:

What do you think? Does it look fake?

//img517.imageshack.us/img517/8302/sandyfz2.jpg

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 08/30/2008 07:18:08 AM · #22
Originally posted by blueskyboris:
Okay, it's been photoshopized:

What do you think? Does it look fake?

Not a bad photoshop job. However, the main lighting is still on the grass. To be honest, it'd probably have been quicker just to re-take the shots. Move the dog onto the lawn, (eliminating background clutter), re-compose and choose a better angle, and wait for the right lighting, perhaps use some fill flash to lift the shadows around the face. Basically what everyone else in the thread was saying :)

ETA: And taking 20 shots is nothing. Try taking 100-200 and then hope that you get one that you like. :)

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 08/30/2008 07:40:57 AM · #23
The dog is in Ontario; I live in South Korea.
 08/30/2008 07:49:38 AM · #24
I guess you won't be re shooting then! lol What you've done so far is a huge improvement over the first version. I would maybe tone down the grass a it, and play with the shadows and highlights tool. But I'm no photoshop wizard!
 08/30/2008 08:32:00 AM · #25
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Heres my version....I dup'd the layer, making on B&W, changed opacity to about 40%, used a layer mask to bring the dog back in color. I think this does well toning down the brightness of the green.

Not great, but someone else could do better!

I'd love to know the 'story' of the dog.

edit: just looked on a different monitor and it looks darker than I thought...oh well you get the point.

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