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04/05/2004 01:43:42 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by bestagents:
Sure. Have a class for the best photographers. And then don't allow them to enter open challenges! This does several things - keeps the open challenges more competetive for newcomers, less 'cherry picking' for the 'experts', reduces the entries in open challenges, encourages the better photographers to become members (as they can no longer enter the open challenges).
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Only trouble is, I'm a member - and I certainly would not consider myself to be one of the "top" photographers on this site! And I didn't become a member because I have lots of extra $$ either - it's just that I felt that this site had something to offer - and to teach me - and in my book, if there's anyway I can support something like this, that's what I'm gonna do.
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04/05/2004 02:58:13 PM · #27 |
Many things in life are segragated by quality - Today begins hte pro baseball season here. I cannot play, even htough i pay to get into the field. I am not good enough. The local high school season has begun as well.I cannot play there, even though my taxes support the filed, team and coach. They say i am too old (inferring i am too good? LOL)
About 10 miles from here is an auto racing track. Anyone can play with any car on track day for the $40 or so fee. If you want to race, then then there are many rules and qualifications, and in some cases monmey matters not - if you have not proven your mettle, you don't get it. I bet any NASCAR driver could enter and win - but why would would they? what prestige or satisfaction would then get for that?
Are professionals allowed to compete with rank amateurs on this site, on a level playing field? Why? I belong to the NMRA and professionals in the field are not allowed to compete in the contests with amateurs.
Which is right or wrong? Each has an advantage. The Elite Experts could compete in their own challenges (open to themselves or all for voting) and between that and the 'title' of Elite Expert they should receive enough prestige to keep them happy without having to have themselvels soil their hand swith us plebians in the open challenge ranks.
chris
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04/05/2004 03:38:46 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
That's an astute observation kaycee, to pick up on the possible emergence of "an elitist thought process". I have noticed a few remarks recently about some people deciding not to participate in and/or vote/comment on the Open Challenges due to a perceived increase in the number of entries and decrease in the quality of pictures there. Your terminology seems to have hit on something I was having a hard time finding the right words for. I hope I have understood your intent correctly. |
As one of the people who've made a such a remark about the open challenges, I feel its only fair to point out that it isn't a perceived increase in the number of entries, it is an increase in the number of entries. This then, directly follows that the number of bad pictures will have also increase in real terms. If plain facts are elitist, then I guess I'm guilty. But it isn't a perception.
For me, personally ,there are too many pictures, and thus too many bad pictures for me to want to either vote or comment in the open challenges.
There may, or may not be an equal percentage of bad pictures, in my opinion, in the members challenges, but I have to look at fewer of them. I'm also trying to limit my participation in the open challenges, partly to do my bit to reduce the number of images though depending on the subject I have entered in the past.
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04/05/2004 06:33:28 PM · #29 |
I do understand the desire to try to stay away from the open challenges; I'm only entering those if I feel I really have a decent shot. In the member challenges, I'm not entering as often as I was in the beginning either, mainly because I don't want to enter a really crappy shot. I do appreciate very much being "thrown a bone" occasionally by one of the "elite few" - whether it be in the form of a compliment or helpful critique - and I have to say that those I most respect when they do comment it is very helpful and I do feel that I'm learning from them. Frankly, if someone feels that they're beyond this site, there are many others out there I'm sure. But it seems to me that most of our "elite" have a pretty good attitude and don't mind helping some of us more "plebian" folks develop our "eye".
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