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08/06/2008 11:40:12 AM · #1 |
Please share some comments on my still life entry. I want to do better but need more comments to improve. Thanks,
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08/06/2008 11:44:43 AM · #2 |
Originally posted by jhomrighaus:
Please share some comments on my still life entry. I want to do better but need more comments to improve. Thanks,
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I gave it a six (which means I liked it and it was of quality). Most of my praise votes are 6-8, 9s and 10s are properly rare.
Love the idea, but the glaring bright background took it down for me. Perhaps modifying the shot to include a hint of action/urgency on the father's part as well. Like have the pile of pocket stuff and the watch being tossed onto the pile (or wallet or whatever is less fragile).
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08/06/2008 11:49:06 AM · #3 |
I originally gave it a 6 because I think it's a good photo, but I ended up changing it to a 5 because I didn't feel it fit the theme as well as some of the other images. When I think of a still life, I think of a set up scene that most likely does not contain people. Although it is a moment frozen in time, the child reaching up to her father does not express "still", in my opinion.
Edit for spelling
Message edited by author 2008-08-06 12:52:39. |
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08/06/2008 12:03:51 PM · #4 |
| I like the idea, I think a little better control on the background lighting would have helped. I also feel the pile of stuff from his pockets looks like it was piled to high just to get it into the frame and does not look natural. I agree with previous comment on it not being as good a fit in the challenge as some of the others but with that being said I like the transformation from still life to daily life that this one has. |
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08/06/2008 06:14:52 PM · #5 |
| What I can't understand is how some people figure a bottle is still life but can't understand how a building is also. Can anyone inform me why this is? |
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08/06/2008 06:21:22 PM · #6 |
Here is what the dictionary says:
still life
unction: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural still lifes
Date: 1695
1 : a picture consisting predominantly of inanimate objects
2 : the category of graphic arts concerned with inanimate subject matter
So...it looks like a building is "still life". However, it doesn't matter what the dictionary says at when voting on DPC.
Originally posted by rugman1969:
What I can't understand is how some people figure a bottle is still life but can't understand how a building is also. Can anyone inform me why this is? |
Message edited by author 2008-08-06 18:22:57. |
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08/07/2008 09:55:59 AM · #7 |
Any opinions on the definition of "still Life"?
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08/07/2008 10:06:12 AM · #8 |
For my shot I specifically focused the composition on the "still Life" of the stuff on the table, the background was so out of focus because I wanted it to be secondary to the main items to enhance the story. As to there being too many items on the table, that is exactly what comes out of my pocket and off of my person every single day when I get home. The background image was specifically intended to act as a background and not to be part of the primary focus of the image. I hoped it would add something to the strength of the story in this image that was fully focused on the inanimate objects of daily life.
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08/07/2008 10:37:12 AM · #9 |
Depends where you look for a definition I think. I believe the Wiki definition gives a better idea of what a still life picture means to most folk:
"A still life is a work of art depicting inanimate subject matter, typically commonplace objects which may be either natural (food, plants and natural substances like rocks) or man-made (drinking glasses, cigarettes, pipes, hotdogs and so on) in an artificial setting. Popular in Western art since the 17th century, still life paintings give the artist more leeway in the arrangement of design elements within a composition than do paintings of other types of subjects such as landscape or portraiture."
I have highlighted in bold the bit that I think is key. "In an artificial setting" So a building is not really in an artificial setting is it? Neither are plants that are still in the ground etc And certainly, people are not inanimate, etc, etc, etc.
Originally posted by kenskid:
Any opinions on the definition of "still Life"?
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Message edited by author 2008-08-07 10:38:20. |
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08/07/2008 12:04:43 PM · #10 |
If I'm not mistaken, the Wiki web dictionary can be edited by many. So who's to say that what is in there definition is correct?
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Depends where you look for a definition I think. I believe the Wiki definition gives a better idea of what a still life picture means to most folk:
"A still life is a work of art depicting inanimate subject matter, typically commonplace objects which may be either natural (food, plants and natural substances like rocks) or man-made (drinking glasses, cigarettes, pipes, hotdogs and so on) in an artificial setting. Popular in Western art since the 17th century, still life paintings give the artist more leeway in the arrangement of design elements within a composition than do paintings of other types of subjects such as landscape or portraiture."
I have highlighted in bold the bit that I think is key. "In an artificial setting" So a building is not really in an artificial setting is it? Neither are plants that are still in the ground etc And certainly, people are not inanimate, etc, etc, etc.
Originally posted by kenskid:
Any opinions on the definition of "still Life"?
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08/07/2008 12:12:27 PM · #11 |
| Regardless of what people say, it sems everyone definition of still life varies, only to fit the subject of one's pic. Thank god I and many others do not take to heart our scores from dp challenges. We would have all quit photography had this been the case. That is why this is a photo site, and not the defining of who can take a picture and who can't. It seems like if you have the right name or the right style of photos, that is what rules here. Doesn't matter how good a pic really is. Sad to say, because there are many really good photographers on this site, and because their name isn't so and so, or their style isn't this, the fact that the picture they submit is just overall awesome doesn't mean squat. Furthermore, the fact that if you can photoshop really well is what counts here, not the fact that you can actually take a picture. I guess if you can photoshop, you don't even have to know how to really use a camera, other than push the button, upload in computer, and photoshop the hell out of it. To all, a building by definition is still life. To all who don't know this, learn to read a book and look it up in Websters, who has been around since way before Wiki was a gleam in someones eye. |
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08/07/2008 12:14:46 PM · #12 |
I thought a still life was only ever a bowl of fruit.
Seemed that way in high school art class. :) |
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08/07/2008 12:59:29 PM · #13 |
| If you had to choose just one, would you choose a building as a still life or an urban landscape? There is a certain relationship between painting and photography. Most people relate to this when judging a still life photo. |
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08/07/2008 01:10:04 PM · #14 |
Didn't say it was right, I said, it gives a better definition of what many people believe it to mean, Wiki just popped up first.
Other definitions, giving similar answers
Originally posted by rugman1969:
If I'm not mistaken, the Wiki web dictionary can be edited by many. So who's to say that what is in there definition is correct?
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Depends where you look for a definition I think. I believe the Wiki definition gives a better idea of what a still life picture means to most folk:
"A still life is a work of art depicting inanimate subject matter, typically commonplace objects which may be either natural (food, plants and natural substances like rocks) or man-made (drinking glasses, cigarettes, pipes, hotdogs and so on) in an artificial setting. Popular in Western art since the 17th century, still life paintings give the artist more leeway in the arrangement of design elements within a composition than do paintings of other types of subjects such as landscape or portraiture."
I have highlighted in bold the bit that I think is key. "In an artificial setting" So a building is not really in an artificial setting is it? Neither are plants that are still in the ground etc And certainly, people are not inanimate, etc, etc, etc.
Originally posted by kenskid:
Any opinions on the definition of "still Life"?
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Message edited by author 2008-08-07 13:24:31. |
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08/07/2008 01:31:31 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by dfstevenson:
If you had to choose just one, would you choose a building as a still life or an urban landscape? There is a certain relationship between painting and photography. Most people relate to this when judging a still life photo. |
Just like people are confusing "Evening" with "Nighttime Landscape" :) |
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