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 04/03/2004 10:48:46 AM · #1
i'm getting to the point where my collection of photographs has exhausted my available disk space (!!) and i would like to start cataloging and moving most of my photos off my hard drive and onto CD or DVD.

i've tried ACDSee but find it a bit lacking in what i'm trying to do. i'd like to have one database on my machine and be able to assign keywords to photos and also reference to which CD the photo has been burned, perhaps with a thumbnail.

am i asking for too much?

i would like to know what other solutions you have tried when attempting to organize your personal photo libraries.
 04/03/2004 11:17:29 AM · #2
I put all my photos in a folder of basically what the picture is about. Then I burn them to cd and if I'm looking for a specific picture then I know where I put it. You don't have to finalize the cd so you can just keep adding to it. Also buy a bigger HD (120GB) and store them until its full, then deal with it. lol
 04/03/2004 11:18:29 AM · #3
if your gonna archive to disk media, get dvd. 4.7 gb is A LOT more data than 700 megs.
04/03/2004 01:28:31 PM · #4
I think Paint Shop Photo Album will catalog images on other media and keep a thumb on your HD but it may do so only for CDs and not DVDs. A free trial download is available at Jasc
 04/03/2004 01:44:27 PM · #5
Archive Creator + a DVD burner is what I use.

Archive Creator link

Creates HTML indexs on all DVDs in the set, handles RAW file formats as well as JPEG. Verifies all the data that's been written. Designed for digital photographers to do just this job, rather than a generic backup program. Can maintain thumbnail databases on the machine too.
 04/03/2004 01:51:19 PM · #6
My family just invested in a 40GB external hard drive because we were/are running out of space on our HUGE 13.9 GB regular. *note the sarcasm* I'm extremely relieved to be able to store my photos and such in a place where I won't have to worry about going through CDs to find them and also that the CDs would get ruined. I'm going to put them onto CDs as well, but keep them on the HD so that I can access them easily.
 04/03/2004 02:00:55 PM · #7
Originally posted by Ami Yuy:
My family just invested in a 40GB external hard drive because we were/are running out of space on our HUGE 13.9 GB regular. *note the sarcasm* I'm extremely relieved to be able to store my photos and such in a place where I won't have to worry about going through CDs to find them and also that the CDs would get ruined. I'm going to put them onto CDs as well, but keep them on the HD so that I can access them easily.


I feel old. My first computer had an 80Mb harddrive, and people are complaining that 13.9Gb is small.
 04/03/2004 02:40:32 PM · #8
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Ami Yuy:
My family just invested in a 40GB external hard drive because we were/are running out of space on our HUGE 13.9 GB regular. *note the sarcasm* I'm extremely relieved to be able to store my photos and such in a place where I won't have to worry about going through CDs to find them and also that the CDs would get ruined. I'm going to put them onto CDs as well, but keep them on the HD so that I can access them easily.


I feel old. My first computer had an 80Mb harddrive, and people are complaining that 13.9Gb is small.


80MB is huge compared to the 20MB I had on my 1st Mac. Though at the time 20MB was considered way more than anyone would ever need. Had 16MB RAM and an 800Baud modem for dialing into GEnie. LOL

04/03/2004 03:27:52 PM · #9
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Ami Yuy:
My family just invested in a 40GB external hard drive because we were/are running out of space on our HUGE 13.9 GB regular. *note the sarcasm* I'm extremely relieved to be able to store my photos and such in a place where I won't have to worry about going through CDs to find them and also that the CDs would get ruined. I'm going to put them onto CDs as well, but keep them on the HD so that I can access them easily.


I feel old. My first computer had an 80Mb harddrive, and people are complaining that 13.9Gb is small.


LOL, that makes me ancient. The first computer I owned had 256 bytes of memory and no offline storage. It was programmed in Hex. (It was the single board "Elf", with an RCA 1802 processer, back in 1977 I believe). (And of course the first IBM PC I had didn't even have a hard drive, then the second had a huge 10MB drive.)


04/03/2004 05:03:51 PM · #10
My first computer used floppy disks that really were floppy.
 04/04/2004 03:10:38 AM · #11
My first PC had a 20MB HD and one 5.25 inch disk drive. And an 8086 10MHz CPU, with 640KB of ram.
I just use a folder to store my photos (and windows picture and fax viewer to view them), and I leave them named as the camera numbers them, IMG_0001.JPG, ...
I might install ACDSee, I used it last year for a while and liked it, but didn't keep using it.
 04/04/2004 03:16:33 AM · #12
If you are using Mac...iView is the greatest!
Can you say Apple IIe? My first puter in 1981(?). And yes, I have always been with Apple since then. Mac SE, 560CD, 5400, 1400cs, iBook, and now the G5!!!

Message edited by author 2004-04-04 03:17:20.
 04/04/2004 03:58:20 AM · #13
I don't have a DVD burner and don't plan on getting one. I will continue to burn photos to CD. For one thing CDs are cheap (free if you watch for sales with rebates) and when you would like to find one certain photo I find it faster to get it off a CD with only a couple hundred photos on than a few thousand on a DVD. I keep all CDs cataloged for easy access. But I guess the the biggest reason is the cost. I must be cheap afterall.
 04/04/2004 06:06:01 AM · #14
I never really thought of cataloging the pictures. They were taking up a substancial amount of hard drive space so I put them on CDs, but I just burned them in specific order. Now I reallize that a few years from now I will have accumulated so many picture CD that if might become a problem. maybe I'll start alphabetizing or something. Too many brain cells needed for that kind of stuff...and I don't have enough :P

June
 04/04/2004 10:09:37 AM · #15
Originally posted by coolhar:
My first computer used floppy disks that really were floppy.


First computer: Apple II Plus with 64K (yes, that's K), an old black and white tv for the monitor and a cassette player for storage. Later we got the floppy disk drive and a printer.

edited to relate to actual topic:

Adobe PhotoShop Album has a startup version that's free. I've only used this limited edition once or twice but it seems pretty good.

Also, I have MicroSoft Digital Image Pro which has a cataloguing feature.

Message edited by author 2004-04-04 10:12:00.
 04/04/2004 10:36:29 AM · #16
On the topic, ThumbsPlus (T+) from //www.cerious.com is a great program that can do a lot of handy tasks, as well as keep a catalog for you. In addition to being a great program, the Cerious people are among the best out there for listening to their customers.

T+ automatically catalogs your data in place, and then you can add keywords, etc. It also supports a local network where the database is shared, and there's a fairly new web server version as well so you can host it the same way.

T+ is shareware, or at least there's a fully functional trial out there. (I forget exactly, since I've owned and maintained this software over many versions over many years, and haven't had to go back to the unregistered version.) Easy to install and try it. It doesn't require you to do anything to "mess" up your system, as other systems might have you rearranging things.
 04/07/2004 12:07:41 AM · #17
I bought a portable Rocket Pod 120 GB HD to suppliment my 40 GB HD. The 120 is just for pictures and I back it up with CDs that get stored safely in a fire proof box.

Better safe than sorry.
 04/07/2004 03:05:50 PM · #18
Gordon

Thanks for the great tip!
I downloaded the trial and purchased the Archive Creator :)
I love the index and master index option.
Now if it only printed CD/DVD labels to go with it it would be totally awesome.

Originally posted by Gordon:
Archive Creator + a DVD burner is what I use.

Archive Creator link

Creates HTML indexs on all DVDs in the set, handles RAW file formats as well as JPEG. Verifies all the data that's been written. Designed for digital photographers to do just this job, rather than a generic backup program. Can maintain thumbnail databases on the machine too.

04/07/2004 03:35:44 PM · #19
Muck, I actually do it all with ACDC. All my images are cataloged using ther catagories option. When I want to archive photos, I just copy them all to a CD. Then I use the modify option and resize/replace them all to 300 pixels wide with a JPEG compression of 5. The resulting files are 30-60kb each and still have the exif and catagory information attached. Then I add a location category that provides information as to where they are archived and I move them to my archive folder. If I need to search through them and recover the file, I can easily do that using the ACDC database.
 04/07/2004 03:43:21 PM · #20
Originally posted by dacrazyrn:
If you are using Mac...iView is the greatest!
Can you say Apple IIe? My first puter in 1981(?). And yes, I have always been with Apple since then. Mac SE, 560CD, 5400, 1400cs, iBook, and now the G5!!!


Can you say Mac Plus? LOL And yes, been with Apple ever since.
 04/07/2004 05:14:22 PM · #21
Originally posted by fsteddy:
I don't have a DVD burner and don't plan on getting one. I will continue to burn photos to CD. For one thing CDs are cheap (free if you watch for sales with rebates) and when you would like to find one certain photo I find it faster to get it off a CD with only a couple hundred photos on than a few thousand on a DVD. I keep all CDs cataloged for easy access. But I guess the the biggest reason is the cost. I must be cheap afterall.


bet ya change your mind :)

Reason I gave up on CDs - a good day might generate 2Gb or more of images. A good week, maybe 5Gb worth of data I want to archive.

CDs are just too small and DVDs are about the same cost or cheaper than CDs now (when you compare cost per Gb)
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