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03/25/2004 02:41:42 AM · #1
Please suggest a good book for newbie on Photoshop 7
Also please Suggest any book imaging as such, Bascially want to get familiar with whole color management, working space, RGB, CMKY Working space issues

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03/25/2004 04:37:47 AM · #2
i would recommend "The Photoshop Book for Digital Photographers" by Scott Kelby. ISBN #0-7357-1236-0

lots of useful info in that book.
03/25/2004 07:36:30 AM · #3
1)Adobe Photoshop Classroom in a Book. Comes in all the versions.
2)Photoshop Retouching and Restoration by Katrin Eismann is awesome. At first it appears to be mostly about restoration, but the things you learn in it can be applied to your photographs in general. She has a second one out that I haven't seen yet, but has rec'd great reviews.
03/25/2004 07:48:23 AM · #4
I've got Eismann's book and Kelby's and of the two I like Kelby's better. Either is fine for content 'cause both are beyond what most people use in Photoshop for the first year or so. I just like Kelby's wit in his writing style. He's a smartass about having to write the chapter intros and his examples are peppered with sardonic comments.
03/25/2004 08:58:31 AM · #5
The Kelby book is a good round-up of all the various hints and tips I've found around the web for photoshop for photographers - great as a starting point and the one I'd recommend.

When/if you want to go a bit deeper and really learn how to make your photos sing, I'd recommend Adobe Photoshop Masterclass by John Paul Caponigro - but it assumes you already know how to use Photoshop pretty well.
03/25/2004 09:24:36 AM · #6
Originally posted by Gordon:

The Kelby book is a good round-up of all the various hints and tips I've found around the web for photoshop for photographers - great as a starting point and the one I'd recommend.

When/if you want to go a bit deeper and really learn how to make your photos sing, I'd recommend Adobe Photoshop Masterclass by John Paul Caponigro - but it assumes you already know how to use Photoshop pretty well.

I have the Caponigro book, and really like it, although I'm far from an expert in PhotoShop. He uses his own experience in creating and manipulating images in PhotoShop, listing and explaining his steps all along the way. He's quite articulate and a bit 'artsy' (?), but given an understanding of the fundamentals of PS (as you indicate), you'll get a lot out of his writing.
03/25/2004 09:41:24 AM · #7
thanks
I have been doing Digital Photography for for 5 month now and started printing only a month back that too from professional lab.
I think i have wrong work flow.

i click , down load , than resize for print size using DPC tutorial on How to create Printable Images, than do any edit ( i hardly edit say only .5% of the time as i dont PS)

I have read words like working Space, sRGB, CMKY mode etc, i like to be familiar with them.
My Pictures 70% of the time are What I See Is What I get, but since i am in the field of garments i need make sure my Color accuracy of myp ictures be in the region of 90-95-100%.

So will these books help me achieve that also i need to learn all the tools in PS.
03/25/2004 09:48:28 AM · #8
If you are really concerned about colour accuracy,

Real World Color Management by Bruce Fraser or
Color Confidence: The Digital Photographer's Guide to Color Management by Tim Grey are probably books you should look at.

I have the first one and it covers all/more than you need to know.
03/25/2004 10:35:52 AM · #9
Well i dont know how to use all the tools in PS, So i need a book that teaches me , color accuracy is also quiet important and i need to know what is standard work flow for doing Printing when done using a Professional Lab that has minilab. I mean do i work in CMKY mode or RGB mode , Just too confused. I have to Print about 20-30 8x10 also two 24x34 collages plus couple of Posters.

Well i just like to be comfortable in all aspects of PS which i am not

Message edited by author 2004-03-25 10:38:37.
03/25/2004 12:00:02 PM · #10
There are 3 basic colour managed workflow approaches

At some point you need to be in the output working space. The question is, when do you move from your input, to a working space, to an output space.

If you know you are only ever going to use one output space, and you'll never want to mix targets like web, inkjet, or offset press, then you can go straight to your output space and do all your work there.

You will still be converting to and from an internal representation and converting to a monitor profile, but you work in the space you want to print from. This is one extreme.

The more usual workflow is to capture in a color space, convert to a working space, like AdobeRGB, and then do a final conversion to a variety of different target spaces sRGB for web, specific paper/ ink/ printer combos for particular outputs, potentially emulating press output using inkjet based soft proofing and so on.

All of these different approaches are covered in Fraser's book, along with more fundamental issues like how to get an accurately calibrated monitor, and why what you see on your screen will never accurately match what you see on your print, no matter how many marketing people lie to you about it ;)

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