Oooh oooh ooh it's one of my challenge suggestions

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

03/22/2004 04:11:37 AM · #1

And my description for it and everything!

(Motion Blur)

I really ought to try and make time to enter it, huh?

coolhar

03/22/2004 07:52:19 AM · #2

Yes, please. And did you intend it for "Advanced" editing?

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

03/22/2004 07:54:01 AM · #3

Actually no, I didn't.
I don't mind advanced editing but personally feel that filters faking motion blurs, pans, radial blurs etc should be disallowed.
But it's not my call...

Trinch

Canon EOS-40D

03/22/2004 08:25:24 AM · #4

I agree. The depth of field challenge was also Advanced Editing and the temptation to fake it was very present. As a side note, it may suit the site better to have technique based challenges be open challenges. They are by far the most instructive and the entire DPC community would benefit from them. Save the themed challenges for members only.

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

03/22/2004 08:30:03 AM · #5

I tend to agree, but then you'd restrict the vast majority of users that have non-SLR cameras that can't do open shutter zooms, or long exposures. They'd be stuck trying to do pans.

At least advanced editing levels the playing field for what is a very camera-performance centric challenge otherwise.

KarenB

Canon EOS-70D

03/22/2004 08:34:14 AM · #6

This is a technique challenge.

Zoom on a stationary subject or pan a moving subject to create motion blur. Search for subjects that will be enhanced by this treatment

In my opinion, you have learned nothing about photography if this is not done in-camera.

I hope people view the advanced editing rules as a tool to finish their photographs, not to make their images.

:)
Cheers.

03/22/2004 08:35:19 AM · #7

I also wonder about the lack of long exposure as an option for motion blur - its the most common way to get it (moving subject, stationary camera)

It seems to be ruled out by the challenge definition - did you mean for that Kavey ?

I recommend not voting while drinking...

Message edited by author 2004-03-22 08:36:02.

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

03/22/2004 08:37:42 AM · #8

Originally posted by Gordon:

Was just about to ask the same question - the obvious choice for me, however with the rule lovers here I won't risk it ;)

KarenB

Canon EOS-70D

03/22/2004 08:40:38 AM · #9

Are you saying that Pan and Zoom are the only techniques allowed? Hmm. I guess I took those as examples of how you would achieve this in-camera.

03/22/2004 08:40:44 AM · #10

No I didn't... sorry...

I didn't think of it in all honesty...

Sorry!

03/22/2004 08:41:47 AM · #11

Originally posted by KarenB:

Are you saying that Pan and Zoom are the only techniques allowed? Hmm. I guess I took those as examples of how you would achieve this in-camera.

It says to 'zoom or pan' - nothing else. There will be those who will no doubt vote down any other way of doing it.

If you are quick you could always get it changed to be more flexible...

Message edited by author 2004-03-22 08:42:34.

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

03/22/2004 08:41:58 AM · #12

Karen
Yes for me they were examples of the challenge theme of Motion Blur but I can see how my description doesn't specify that other techniques can be used.
Sorry folks...
:o(

coolhar

03/22/2004 10:26:18 AM · #13

For the third challenge in a row I am left with the feeling that dpc needs to improve the method of selecting challenge topics. Picking at random from all suggestions, without any apparent consideration given to timing or fine tuning of the details, IMHO, isn't getting the job done very well.

At the very least there should be consideration as to which set of rules are best for a particular topic since many of the suggestions were made when there was only one set of rules.

03/22/2004 10:28:56 AM · #14

Originally posted by coolhar:

At the very least there should be consideration as to which set of rules are best for a particular topic since many of the suggestions were made when there was only one set of rules.

Its a tough one though.

Do you a/ pick basic editing, and give all the SLR users a huge advantage or
b/ pick advanced editing and avoid any need to learn how to do panning/ zooming or anything interesting in camera at all.

So which do you prefer - elitism or photoshopping ? :)

03/22/2004 10:38:01 AM · #15

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by coolhar:

At the very least there should be consideration as to which set of rules are best for a particular topic since many of the suggestions were made when there was only one set of rules.

Its a tough one though.

Do you a/ pick basic editing, and give all the SLR users a huge advantage or
b/ pick advanced editing and avoid any need to learn how to do panning/ zooming or anything interesting in camera at all.

So which do you prefer - elitism or photoshopping ? :)

elitism ;)

03/22/2004 10:39:22 AM · #16

those without SLRs can still pan. Also those with SLR' may just use prime lenses so won't be able to zoomshoot.

03/22/2004 10:40:48 AM · #17

Originally posted by jonpink:

those without SLRs can still pan. Also those with SLR' may just use prime lenses so won't be able to zoomshoot.

Yes they can. Doesn't stop them complaining though.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS

03/22/2004 10:43:06 AM · #18

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by jonpink:
those without SLRs can still pan. Also those with SLR' may just use prime lenses so won't be able to zoomshoot.

Yes they can. Doesn't stop them complaining though.

Very true.

Trinch

Canon EOS-40D

03/22/2004 10:46:58 AM · #19

You don't really need to be able to zoom with an open shutter as long as you have a human cannon handy. (No Canon pun intended)

coolhar

Canon PowerShot Pro 90 IS

03/22/2004 11:27:45 AM · #20

Originally posted by Gordon:

So which do you prefer - elitism or photoshopping ? :)

Aren't the advocates of "Advanced" editing the elitists here?

In the case of the current Motion Blur challenge I think a little fine tuning of the details would have gone a long way.

KarenB

Canon EOS-70D

Canon EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM

03/22/2004 12:07:08 PM · #21

Please note the updates to the Motion Blur Challenge in the Challenge Details.

Motion Blur Update