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03/17/2008 07:31:04 PM · #1 |
There's William Eggleston, Steven Shore. Colour photographers. Held up as some of the best American photographers in that medium.
Such radically different images to what is considered here. I idly wonder where that gulf opened up and if it just 'is'. |
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03/17/2008 07:32:34 PM · #2 |
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03/17/2008 08:03:35 PM · #3 |
haven't checked out shore, yet ... but i'd wup Eggleston' arse in every challenge
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03/17/2008 08:04:04 PM · #4 |
| ICP Past Exhibit - Stephen Shore One of the things that Stephen Shore did on his road trips was make postcard size prints of his photographs and stuff these into the racks of regular tourist postcards. |
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03/17/2008 11:04:59 PM · #5 |
1) Not everybody considers Eggleston to be the best color photographer just because Szarkowski said he was.
2) What you call a gulf, which you seem to wish didn't exist, I call it variety, and I'm glad it exists. I don't care for Eggleston, Shore, Goldin, Evans, etc. but I'm glad they have done what they have done and added "variety". I'm glad we have Dostoevsky, Marquez, Genet, Eco and we also have Grisham, Clancy, Dan Brown and even Nora Roberts/J.D. Robb. I'm glad we have Fellini, Tarkovsky, Kurosawa, Saura, and we also have George Lucas, Bruckheimer and others. I like variety. It makes the world that much more cheerful and enjoyable. However, speaking from personal experience, one has to deflate one's hyper-inflated ego and tone down one's self-importance and self-righteousness (In other words, as Eco's Jacopo Belbo would say, "Ma gavte la nata") so as to be able to enjoy that variety. Otherwise, I don't know how one can sustain a life with so much discontent and frustration. |
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03/17/2008 11:06:14 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Tycho:
What you call a gulf, which you seem to wish didn't exist, |
that's reading a lot in to a few words that don't say that. I'm mostly at a loss with Eggleston and Shore's images. Somewhere I'm missing a decoder ring. But their images and the praise for their images seems to be a long way from what is popular with the camera wielding masses. Mind you, I don't get much of Frank and the Americans either, without someone explaining every image to me (which Jeff Curto does rather well in his lectures)
Message edited by author 2008-03-17 23:12:57. |
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03/17/2008 11:23:44 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Tycho:
What you call a gulf, which you seem to wish didn't exist, |
that's reading a lot in to a few words that don't say that. I'm mostly at a loss with Eggleston and Shore's images. Somewhere I'm missing a decoder ring. But their images and the praise for their images seems to be a long way from what is popular with the camera wielding masses. Mind you, I don't get much of Frank and the Americans either, without someone explaining every image to me (which Jeff Curto does rather well in his lectures) |
Well then, it's my bad. I didn't mean to put words in your mouth, although I based that assumption of mine on not just one sentence. I've been around here for quite some time, you know. But anyway, it appears that I was wrong this time. I don't believe in apologizing, so I won't apologize but will say that I'll try not to repeat the same mistake. For what it's worth, I'm a somewhat grumpy guy and have been feeling quite fed up with the incessant sophomoric babblings about art and how "DPC crowd" is as capable of appreciating true art as is a castrated bull. So I guess I snapped for a moment there. Certainly nothing personal against you. Peace! |
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03/18/2008 06:48:16 AM · #8 |
lol
Originally posted by Tycho:
For what it's worth, I'm a somewhat grumpy guy and have been feeling quite fed up with the incessant sophomoric babblings about art and how "DPC crowd" is as capable of appreciating true art as is a castrated bull. |
Message edited by ClubJuggle - Fixed broken quote tags. |
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03/18/2008 10:01:31 AM · #9 |
btw, if anyone does have any good insight or pointers to why Shore or Eggleston are good or considered good, I would appreciate the direction. Am I missing some sort of cultural context ? Does it all hark back to a lost America that might never have existed ?
Looking at their pictures feels like reading Bill Bryson's Thunderbolt Kid at times.
Mostly though, I don't get it. Some people apparently do. |
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