5D II Spec Sheet (MSRP $3499, available June 2)

03/11/2008 09:41:20 AM · #26

Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by Gordon:
Anyone want to buy a 2nd hand D60 ? :)

I'll give you $5 ;)

That's not a bad offer!

hopper

Canon EOS-80D

Canon EF 35mm f/2 IS USM

03/11/2008 09:42:48 AM · #27

you thinkin' of gettin' one, doc? I would not have guessed that.

:)

Originally posted by doctornick:

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by scalvert:
The 40D currently has better weather sealing than the 5D (as in, "some").

'Some' seems a bit of a weird notion. Is it just some of the buttons that leak or ? :)

I'm thinking of probably getting whatever replaces the 5D. Want a lighter body that's full frame. So I'm
interested to see what appears. Then I'll pick it up 6 months later once the focus issues and recalls are
mostly finished and the price has fallen to a sane level.

LOL good thinking! ;)

p.s. anyone want a lightly used 5D? ;)

PhotoDave

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

03/11/2008 09:45:45 AM · #28

Originally posted by doctornick:

p.s. anyone want a lightly used 5D? ;)

Dont tempt me :P

Tez

03/11/2008 09:48:55 AM · #29

is there any indication to where this rumour sprang from? It seems like just another one to add to the pile and there does seem to be a couple of things that seem strange, like the weather sealing, and the annoucement date too. What happens on June 2nd?

I really hope it's true as i'm getting tired of my 400d and it's lack of resolution and professional image quality for what i need. Only 2 and a half months until June though so we shall see what comes of it. No doubt we'll be hearing plenty more rumours between now and then, all of which come from "a source I cannot reveal".

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

03/11/2008 10:34:05 AM · #30

I still think Photokina seems like the best time for an announcement. It is the biggest imaging trade show in the world and it is in September. Why would Canon announce out of sync with that ?

Prof_Fate

03/11/2008 11:09:35 AM · #31

Originally posted by Gordon:

I still think Photokina seems like the best time for an announcement. It is the biggest imaging trade show in the world and it is in September. Why would Canon announce out of sync with that ?

Get all the attention to themselves, to throw the competition off guard, or perhaps because they've screwed up and let Nikon take the lead in high-ISO and they want the item out earlier than Fall 08.

Their propaganda has been that the 5D has no competition so they have no reason to improve/update/replace it. It's now the oldest body they sell! The only non-self cleaner, the only non-Digic3, etc.

IMO it's well past time to update the 5D and the sooner the better.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

03/11/2008 11:13:25 AM · #32

Originally posted by Gordon:

I still think Photokina seems like the best time for an announcement. It is the biggest imaging trade show in the world and it is in September. Why would Canon announce out of sync with that ?

Could be that the D3 is putting pressure on them to update. It's proving to be a great camera, and although the price point is much higher, it is also built to Nikon's highest standards. Canon has had a great run with the 5D, much longer product life than with other non-1-series cameras. Updating it at that price point and including weather sealing would really provide a powerful counterpoint to the D3.
It's all really speculation until there is an actual announcement.

Tez

Canon RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1 L IS USM

03/11/2008 11:27:09 AM · #33

I remember seeing a rumour about this back in November 07 that mentioned a 16mp ff, weather sealed upgrade to the 5d... they come around every couple of months it seems. If it's true or nto we'll find out in a month on April 22nd...

But, if it were true they would be manufacturing models already to ship them by June to satisfy demand (it's going to be huge) and you would think some concrete information would be circulating now, or at least a picture of the actual camera.

Also, with sony bringing out their 24mp ff camera theoretically at Photokina, the $3500 seems like a high price in the face of such competition, especially with a 9mp deficit.

FireBird

03/11/2008 11:33:28 AM · #34

Originally posted by De Sousa:

* Weather sealing same as 1Ds Mark III

It's also rumored that there will be a special
*Achoo* model that is waterproof down to 3 meters.

Sorry Doc. Couldn't resist.

heheheheheh

cloudsme

Canon EOS R5

03/11/2008 11:37:58 AM · #35

Wow, I'm drooling.

ben4345

Nikon D700

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

03/11/2008 11:42:48 AM · #36

rumors from straight from dpreview need to be ignored. But of course if this is true, more power. Until then, it goes into the "5D mkII" pile.

Quasimojo

Canon EOS-30D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

03/11/2008 11:49:27 AM · #37

Originally posted by fir3bird:

It's also rumored that there will be a special
*Achoo* model that is waterproof down to 3 meters.

hehehehehehe....the Achoo Special Edition is described as being "waterproof to 3m, allergic to water and immune to dust, advanced nano technology harnessing pathogen power for 100fps bursts, advanced sensor dust cleaner that not only clears the dust but it collects and analyses each particle. Ribbon and tissue holders available as accessories"

:)

N

EDIT: The real rumours concern the Enzo Special Edition, with built in advanced security systems, including trained alsatian, no-harm-but-really-stings bullets (tm), full bible libraries (OT and NT, plus various interpretations and commentaries) on flash with optional parchment printer, and the special Enzo's Black and White mode. Very exciting stuff.

EDIT #2: And the Quasimojo Special Edition features all new camera modes: instant sunshine, greyaway(tm), coast be near, clouds be gone. Special 'No Cops' mode.

Message edited by author 2008-03-11 11:56:49.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

03/11/2008 11:56:42 AM · #38

Originally posted by Quasimojo:

Originally posted by fir3bird:
It's also rumored that there will be a special
*Achoo* model that is waterproof down to 3 meters.

hehehehehehe....the Achoo Special Edition is described as being "waterproof to 3m, allergic to water and immune to dust, advanced nano technology harnessing pathogen power for 100fps bursts, advanced sensor dust cleaner that not only clears the dust but it collects and analyses each particle. Ribbon and tissue holders available as accessories"

:)

N

EDIT: The real rumours concern the Enzo Special Edition, with built in advanced security systems, including trained alsatian, no-harm-but-really-stings bullets (tm), full bible libraries (OT and NT, plus various interpretations and commentaries) on flash with optional parchment printer, and the special Enzo's Black and White mode. Very exciting stuff.

I resemble that remark. In talking to Jorge I would put serious stock in this rumor (although it is still a rumor). He has connections most of us don't. While I wish the MP jump was bigger (only 20%), the weathersealing does seem pretty sweet to me. Still, I'm not sure weathersealing with survive the accidental dip in the water that has been the bane of my existence.

Mr_Pants

SiPix Blink

03/11/2008 01:12:51 PM · #39

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Still, I'm not sure weathersealing with survive the accidental dip in the water that has been the bane of my existence.

I can definitely attest to the fact that it will.

Message edited by author 2008-03-11 13:16:55.

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G IF-ED

03/11/2008 01:48:44 PM · #40

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Still, I'm not sure weathersealing with survive the accidental dip in the water that has been the bane of my existence.

I know it can survive a pint of beer over the camera body, so a gentle rinse in a stream seems like it should be fine.

Anti-Martyr

Fujifilm FinePix S5 Pro

03/11/2008 02:01:26 PM · #41

The D400 specs sound better :P

lowonenergy

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

03/11/2008 02:05:26 PM · #42

Originally posted by Anti-Martyr:

The D400 specs sound better :P

lies........... :]

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

03/11/2008 02:32:52 PM · #43

Wonder if they made it so EF-S lenses will work on it.
THAT is the major thing that holds me back from the 5D vs. a 40D when the time comes.

leaf

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

03/11/2008 02:59:11 PM · #44

lets this rumour is true...

Matthew

Peleng 8mm f/3.5 Fisheye MC In M42 Mount

03/11/2008 03:01:59 PM · #45

Originally posted by Brad:

Wonder if they made it so EF-S lenses will work on it.
THAT is the major thing that holds me back from the 5D vs. a 40D when the time comes.

EF-S will never work with a full frame camera like the 5D range - they are designed to cast an image onto an area smaller than the 35mm sensor (ie they cast an image onto an APS-C sized sensor) which is why they are cheaper, lighter and smaller than non-EF-S lenses.

If they did work from a mechanical perspective you would have a large shadow around the edge of the image.

Message edited by author 2008-03-11 15:03:03.

Brad

Olympus OM-D E-M1

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

03/11/2008 03:06:57 PM · #46

Originally posted by Matthew:

Originally posted by Brad:
Wonder if they made it so EF-S lenses will work on it.
THAT is the major thing that holds me back from the 5D vs. a 40D when the time comes.

EF-S will never work with a full frame camera like the 5D range - they are designed to cast an image onto an area smaller than the 35mm sensor (ie they cast an image onto an APS-C sized sensor) which is why they are cheaper, lighter and smaller than non-EF-S lenses.

If they did work from a mechanical perspective you would have a large shadow around the edge of the image.

I know, but wished they'd figure out a way.
Some EF-S lenses out there that would be nice to be able to use.

03/11/2008 03:09:08 PM · #47

Originally posted by Brad:

I know, but wished they'd figure out a way.
Some EF-S lenses out there that would be nice to be able to use.

Well the way to make it work, is to make a smaller sensor. Which would be a crop factor camera.

You can technically mount the lenses, (I've done it with others on a 1DsII) they just wont ever make a big enough image for a 35mm equivalent sensor to use. It isn't something that wishing can change. They made a conscious design decision with the EF-S lenses that they would not resolve an image that covers a 35mm sized sensor. The same thing with the Olympus 3/4 format. Smaller lenses, lighter lenses, smaller image size.

Message edited by author 2008-03-11 15:10:37.

silverscreen

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

03/11/2008 03:11:43 PM · #48

Originally posted by Matthew:

Well, Nikon figured out how to do this with the D3... It uses both DX and FX lenses (DX lenses gives smaller pictures/lower resolution - but at least they are usable)