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03/08/2008 08:55:00 AM · #1 |
Congratulations to the winners of the Landscape with Reflections Challenge, a.k.a. the February free study. Seven of the top ten photos fall into this category. I voted the second option on the free study ballot. I think something should change. Photography is more than landscapes. Where are the portraits? The candids? Etc? My suggestion; vote to vary the duration of the free studies. Also maybe we could make some other changes, like minimal editing, exclude HDR, or something to give a little variety to the results. For now, I won't submit to a free study, unless I happen to run across a landscape with a reflection.
If there is a response to my rant, please do not bash individual photos. I think the winning photos are quite beautiful. |
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03/08/2008 09:54:25 AM · #2 |
Freestudy is about picking your best shot for the month (at least that's how a lot of people interpret it). People usually shoot in their comfort zone.
If you choose the freestudy to explore new genres then that's your choice. Who knows, you could still come up with a gem.
Also, since a freestudy can include everything from landscapes to portraits, a lot of people have trouble comparing the different types and therefore usually vote for what they know best.
Just my 0.02 cents. |
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03/08/2008 12:39:36 PM · #3 |
| I guess you are saying that the community only has comfort with landscapes that have a foreground reflection. I think the community is alot deeper than that. I'm not sure what the problem is. I only know that the free studies should be shaken up a little, to allow other types of photography to get a consideration. |
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03/08/2008 02:20:49 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by cloudsme:
I only know that the free studies should be shaken up a little, to allow other types of photography to get a consideration. |
So in essence what you are advocating is that the "Free Studies" should now have a "Specific Topic... a free study with parameters if you will.
Sorry, but that truly does not reflect "Free" to me.
Perhaps a suggestion for a specific challenge subject would be a better course to follow.
Ray |
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03/08/2008 03:19:54 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by cloudsme:
I guess you are saying that the community only has comfort with landscapes that have a foreground reflection. I think the community is alot deeper than that. I'm not sure what the problem is. I only know that the free studies should be shaken up a little, to allow other types of photography to get a consideration. |
No. It just so happened that that is what people chose to enter this challenge. Their choice. Not yours. |
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03/08/2008 03:52:25 PM · #6 |
Generally, landscapes do very well here, and I would guess that there are more "landscape photographers" than fine art, portrait, or other photographers. I understand the sentiment and would encourage people to shoot/vote posthumously (in the  posthumous sense, not the literal sense), but whatcha gonna do. |
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03/08/2008 04:07:26 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by cloudsme:
I only know that the free studies should be shaken up a little, to allow other types of photography to get a consideration. |
So in essence what you are advocating is that the "Free Studies" should now have a "Specific Topic... a free study with parameters if you will.
Sorry, but that truly does not reflect "Free" to me.
Perhaps a suggestion for a specific challenge subject would be a better course to follow.
Ray |
There are parameters on the study. Type of editing and time frame for shooting. I think just a few more parameters to make non landscape shots just a little more competetive would be nice. |
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03/08/2008 04:08:31 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by cloudsme:
Originally posted by RayEthier:
Originally posted by cloudsme:
I only know that the free studies should be shaken up a little, to allow other types of photography to get a consideration. |
So in essence what you are advocating is that the "Free Studies" should now have a "Specific Topic... a free study with parameters if you will.
Sorry, but that truly does not reflect "Free" to me.
Perhaps a suggestion for a specific challenge subject would be a better course to follow.
Ray |
There are parameters on the study. Type of editing and time frame for shooting. I think just a few more parameters to make non landscape shots just a little more competetive would be nice. |
How would you propose to do that? |
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03/08/2008 04:09:48 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by cloudsme:
There are parameters on the study. Type of editing and time frame for shooting. I think just a few more parameters to make non landscape shots just a little more competetive would be nice. |
If you would achieve that by saying "no landscapes", it would no longer be a free study. :-) |
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03/08/2008 04:09:57 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by cloudsme:
I guess you are saying that the community only has comfort with landscapes that have a foreground reflection. I think the community is alot deeper than that. I'm not sure what the problem is. I only know that the free studies should be shaken up a little, to allow other types of photography to get a consideration. |
No. It just so happened that that is what people chose to enter this challenge. Their choice. Not yours. |
I think people are mostly submitting landscapes because that is mostly what does well. It's a vicious cycle that should be inhibited. Changing editing, changing time frames for shooting, and getting rid of HDR for challenges would help. |
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03/08/2008 04:12:39 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by cloudsme:
I think people are mostly submitting landscapes because that is mostly what does well. It's a vicious cycle that should be inhibited. Changing editing, changing time frames for shooting, and getting rid of HDR for challenges would help. |
Inhibiting what people shoot in a free study sort of defeats its "free study" purpose. If landscapes do well and you don't like that, hang with these people and change the system from within. Simple. ;-)
Message edited by author 2008-03-08 16:12:55. |
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03/08/2008 04:21:49 PM · #12 |
maybe a couple of exclusive free studies every month would help, one for landscape, one for people, and one open to everything else. What do you think?
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03/08/2008 04:24:19 PM · #13 |
I went through the entries, there about 120 photos with a person in them. I wouldn't call of them portraits or candids, some are family snapshots. Thats about 25% of the entries.
Here is my look through the entries and how many had a person in them not even portrait or candid. Some are of the "landscape with a person somewhere in it" variety.
In the top 100-19 images
101 to 200-27 images
201 to 300-34 images
301 to 455-42 images
Although there aren't so many at the top they are spread pretty evenly. Its much more difficult to shoot a great portrait or candid then find a nice landscape and wait for good light, IMO. And DPC voters currently vote higher for nice landscapes then great portraits are candids. Outside of the top images on the front page, I find most images that get favorites are those with the human element. |
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03/08/2008 04:40:11 PM · #14 |
| I'm really not sure what to change. I don't hate landscapes, I just feel they overwhelm the free studies to the exclusion of other excellent types of photos. I think the first step to changing things is changing your vote in the current poll. |
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03/08/2008 04:47:49 PM · #15 |
| How would changing the frequency of free studies change what people decide to enter? |
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03/08/2008 04:47:57 PM · #16 |
| I already voted that I hate free studies. I do. I hate that I feel compelled to enter them, then I enter something I like and isn't a landscape, and it basically settles into mediocrity. But as my boss likes to say, "it is what it is". People in general like landscapes. They're soothing, they're pretty, they're non-threatening, and for the most part they're universal. People pictures, on the other hand, bring in all sorts of elements - whether the person is pretty (and by whose definition?), young, old, of a different race or culture or gender than the voter - emotion comes into play. Landscapes will generally win out. Not always, but generally. The solution might be to have Free Study Sections A and B, where A is landscapes, B is all else, but that just won't go over well. So either enter a landscape of your own or don't vote Free Studies. :-) |
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03/08/2008 04:48:45 PM · #17 |
Although I believe the images in the top 10 or so were great I believe my was not properly placed. I don't think it deserved a top 10 or top 50 but to come in 322nd. I belive many images ahead of mine in placement were as good as mine. I thought it was much better than it placed and that is discouraging to me.
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03/08/2008 04:53:04 PM · #18 |
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