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03/07/2008 09:52:37 AM · #1 |
So far everyone giving ideas about "Challenge Subjects" but I have an idea. Why don't we have a challenge that photos taken only fixed lenses?
I realize that many people won't like the idea since they may not have any fixed lens at all but idea here to bring up the suggestion, and take it from there. Other could be challenge that photos taken with filters (color) only ;) |
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03/07/2008 09:58:52 AM · #2 |
I thought this would be a good augmentation for the free studies. This month a fixed filter. Next month a square crop. the following month Portrait layout...etc.etc. Not telling the subject or technicals but something to make them more interesting.
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03/07/2008 10:47:45 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
So far everyone giving ideas about "Challenge Subjects" but I have an idea. Why don't we have a challenge that photos taken only fixed lenses? |
What do you mean by "fixed lenses"? If you mean "prime" (non-zoom) lenses, then none of the P&S people can enter. If you mean "non-interchangeable" lenses, then none of the dSLR people can enter...
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03/07/2008 10:53:19 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
So far everyone giving ideas about "Challenge Subjects" but I have an idea. Why don't we have a challenge that photos taken only fixed lenses? |
What do you mean by "fixed lenses"? If you mean "prime" (non-zoom) lenses, then none of the P&S people can enter. If you mean "non-interchangeable" lenses, then none of the dSLR people can enter...
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so then they can make two challenges at the same time. "fixed" and "non interchangeable"...i think its a good idea. would be nice to see what people come up with, with the "lens", as the only requirement.
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03/07/2008 11:04:42 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:
so then they can make two challenges at the same time. "fixed" and "non interchangeable"...i think its a good idea. would be nice to see what people come up with, with the "lens", as the only requirement. |
I guess I'm struggling to see how this really differs from 'free study'. You get to pick a lens and go take a picture with it ?
Challenge yourself to use the same one prime lens for a month or a year, that might be fun and instructive.
Message edited by author 2008-03-07 11:05:33.
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03/07/2008 11:06:14 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
So far everyone giving ideas about "Challenge Subjects" but I have an idea. Why don't we have a challenge that photos taken only fixed lenses? |
What do you mean by "fixed lenses"? If you mean "prime" (non-zoom) lenses, then none of the P&S people can enter. If you mean "non-interchangeable" lenses, then none of the dSLR people can enter...
R. |
so then they can make two challenges at the same time. "fixed" and "non interchangeable"...i think its a good idea. would be nice to see what people come up with, with the "lens", as the only requirement. |
Well, IF you do that then the one challenge is limited to dSLR owners who also own prime lenses, and the other is limited to point-and-shoot owners. I don't see the sense in that, myself; why not CALL them what they are: "dSLR Challenge" and "P&S Challenge"?
I suspect OP has something else in mind and I am not getting it, dense as I be...
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03/07/2008 11:19:42 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
So far everyone giving ideas about "Challenge Subjects" but I have an idea. Why don't we have a challenge that photos taken only fixed lenses? |
What do you mean by "fixed lenses"? If you mean "prime" (non-zoom) lenses, then none of the P&S people can enter. If you mean "non-interchangeable" lenses, then none of the dSLR people can enter...
R. |
so then they can make two challenges at the same time. "fixed" and "non interchangeable"...i think its a good idea. would be nice to see what people come up with, with the "lens", as the only requirement. |
Well, IF you do that then the one challenge is limited to dSLR owners who also own prime lenses, and the other is limited to point-and-shoot owners. I don't see the sense in that, myself; why not CALL them what they are: "dSLR Challenge" and "P&S Challenge"?
I suspect OP has something else in mind and I am not getting it, dense as I be...
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if the OP has something else in mind then you can count me as dense too. If nothing else maybe you should say "ok the challenge is, you must take a picture with your focal distance ONLY between 20-40mm (or something that would incorporate more cameras). Anything outside that distance is grounds for DQ. |
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03/07/2008 11:23:16 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by sabphoto:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by smilebig4me1x:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
So far everyone giving ideas about "Challenge Subjects" but I have an idea. Why don't we have a challenge that photos taken only fixed lenses? |
What do you mean by "fixed lenses"? If you mean "prime" (non-zoom) lenses, then none of the P&S people can enter. If you mean "non-interchangeable" lenses, then none of the dSLR people can enter...
R. |
so then they can make two challenges at the same time. "fixed" and "non interchangeable"...i think its a good idea. would be nice to see what people come up with, with the "lens", as the only requirement. |
Well, IF you do that then the one challenge is limited to dSLR owners who also own prime lenses, and the other is limited to point-and-shoot owners. I don't see the sense in that, myself; why not CALL them what they are: "dSLR Challenge" and "P&S Challenge"?
I suspect OP has something else in mind and I am not getting it, dense as I be...
R. |
if the OP has something else in mind then you can count me as dense too. If nothing else maybe you should say "ok the challenge is, you must take a picture with your focal distance ONLY between 20-40mm (or something that would incorporate more cameras). Anything outside that distance is grounds for DQ. |
20-40mm with what reference? How do you convert the P & S 7-28mm lens to this reference? |
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03/07/2008 12:03:08 PM · #9 |
| I think it's fairly obvious that the suggestion is to restrict entries to those taken with prime lenses on DSLRs. Unless it's balanced out by a complementary exclusive challenge, it's not a good idea in that it rules out P&S users, and DSLR users who don't own primes. As well, it's very close to a free study. |
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03/07/2008 12:36:53 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Challenge yourself to use the same one prime lens for a month or a year, that might be fun and instructive. |
This is a great idea! I did this with my 50mm 1.4 for a month (a year seems a bit much). I learned alot! I'm doing the same with my 17-55 now....
Message edited by author 2008-03-07 12:37:50.
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03/07/2008 12:40:29 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by neophyte:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Challenge yourself to use the same one prime lens for a month or a year, that might be fun and instructive. |
This is a great idea! I did this with my 50mm 1.4 for a month (a year seems a bit much). |
Some seem to manage it for a lifetime.
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03/07/2008 01:03:32 PM · #12 |
Yeah, I know, I wish I had that much patience.....Is there a discount on the 70-200 2.8 VR yet? :P
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03/07/2008 01:14:19 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
...What do you mean by "fixed lenses"? If you mean "prime" (non-zoom) lenses, then none of the P&S people can enter. |
Yes, it's prime or fixed lens I think... but yes, that's the idea.
If that would be a problem then lets try "color filter" challenge... or "macro lens" only challenge... "using built in flash photos only" challenge :P something with camera and camera equipment/parts related :)
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03/07/2008 01:48:04 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
...What do you mean by "fixed lenses"? If you mean "prime" (non-zoom) lenses, then none of the P&S people can enter. |
Yes, it's prime or fixed lens I think... but yes, that's the idea.
If that would be a problem then lets try "color filter" challenge... or "macro lens" only challenge... "using built in flash photos only" challenge :P something with camera and camera equipment/parts related :) |
Every time you do that, you potentially limit entrants to those who own the equipment you restrict the challenge to. I couldn't enter a "colour filter" challenge for example, because I don't have any. |
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03/07/2008 03:16:37 PM · #15 |
| Restricted entry challenges like these are fine as long as they are extras and don't replace a challenge that is open to everyone. |
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03/07/2008 03:27:07 PM · #16 |
I had an idea awhile back for a fixed aperture of f/8 challenge. Thought it might be interesting to see what we get from wide angle to telephoto zooms in terms of sharpness and depth of field. Would be like a Free Study though. Might be a nice Thursday challenge like  cpanaioti suggests.
ETA:forgot link to the challenge suggestion
Message edited by author 2008-03-07 15:28:12. |
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03/07/2008 03:30:14 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by jdannels:
I had an idea awhile back for a fixed aperture of f/8 challenge. Thought it might be interesting to see what we get from wide angle to telephoto zooms in terms of sharpness and depth of field. Would be like a Free Study though. Might be a nice Thursday challenge like cpanaioti suggests.
ETA:forgot link to the challenge suggestion |
I really like that idea - forcing us to use a fixed aperture would really teach those of us still learning something thoroughly useful. |
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03/07/2008 03:39:28 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Every time you do that, you potentially limit entrants to those who own the equipment you restrict the challenge to. I couldn't enter a "colour filter" challenge for example, because I don't have any. |
I don't have a pet. Was that challenge unfair ?
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03/07/2008 03:45:13 PM · #19 |
I like that idea as well :) |
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03/07/2008 03:52:04 PM · #20 |
| Like the idea of fixed aperture. f/8 is my smallest, not my sweetest though. And many lesser P & S's give no control over aperture. Sigh. However this sort of thing might make an excellent side challenge; side challenges IMO offer way better opportunities to hone in on some camera/photo aspect. I say "offer," because they tend to get a wee bit out of "control" what with the enthusiasm and all. Toying with the idea of suggesting a P & S side challenge designed to tease earth shattering results out of the least of these little suckers. |
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