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03/06/2008 02:09:45 PM · #1
Perhaps instead of the free studies, run a month long, themed challenge.

The thesis is: would it improve the quality of entries, if we had more time to shoot/enter ?
03/06/2008 02:12:01 PM · #2
Originally posted by Gordon:

Perhaps instead of the free studies, run a month long, themed challenge.

The thesis is: would it improve the quality of entries, if we had more time to shoot/enter ?


It might, but ....

Those who wait until the last minute will still wait until the last minute. They'll just have more time to procrastinate.
03/06/2008 02:13:13 PM · #3
A month isn't long enough?!?!?! We do have Best of (year) challenges.
03/06/2008 02:14:25 PM · #4
Originally posted by idnic:

A month isn't long enough?!?!?! We do have Best of (year) challenges.


Still a free study though.

The suggestion is for a month long themed challenge.
03/06/2008 02:15:36 PM · #5
perhaps we could have a 24 or 48 hour challenge every day and 1 months long. that way we could cater to the people with ADD and the procrastinators =D
03/06/2008 02:15:48 PM · #6
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

Those who wait until the last minute will still wait until the last minute. They'll just have more time to procrastinate.


This would be more-or-less the opposite of a Speed Challenge. I could see it as a surprise, occasional thing ...
03/06/2008 02:19:25 PM · #7
Originally posted by idnic:

A month isn't long enough?!?!?! We do have Best of (year) challenges.


There are no month long themed challenges.
03/06/2008 02:30:03 PM · #8
Originally posted by Gordon:

Perhaps instead of the free studies, run a month long, themed challenge.

The thesis is: would it improve the quality of entries, if we had more time to shoot/enter ?

IMO, it would just increase the number of entries and really have no effect on quality.
03/06/2008 02:37:01 PM · #9
Originally posted by glad2badad:

IMO, it would just increase the number of entries and really have no effect on quality.


So you think one week is the most amount of time you'd need to spend on a particular style of photography to get as good as you could at it ? Or just that people wouldn't put any more effort in ?
03/06/2008 02:40:28 PM · #10
I like the idea of a month long themed challenge, but not at the expense of the monthly Free Study, which I love both entering and voting on.
03/06/2008 03:17:09 PM · #11
Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

IMO, it would just increase the number of entries and really have no effect on quality.

So you think one week is the most amount of time you'd need to spend on a particular style of photography to get as good as you could at it ? Or just that people wouldn't put any more effort in ?

In some cases a month wouldn't be enough for me. :-) However, I think that the various Side Challenges currently in play address this need (long-term theme) very well.

Some would put about the same amount of effort into entering a month long themed challenge IMO as is put forth for a weekly challenge. A subset would work hard at it and then have a great effort to enter. Last, but not least, you'd have the group of people that wouldn't really put forth any extra effort but have 30 days worth of images to go thru to come up with an appropriate shoehorned entry (there's where the increase in number of entries comes in).
03/06/2008 03:18:59 PM · #12
The current poll clearly reinforces what the number of entries tells us; the Free Studies are a very popular site feature. The number of votes cast in the Free Studies indicates that folks like to vote them as well. I know I do, there are often some refreshingly different entries.
While longer themed challenges definitely aren't a bad idea on the face, I don't know that we need more complexity in the challenge system or on the front page right now...
03/06/2008 04:22:02 PM · #13
IMO, part of the challenge is working under a short deadline, pushing us to become more creative in not only conceiving an idea but in implementing it quickly.

All of us could come up with better pictures "if only"...
03/06/2008 04:30:03 PM · #14
Originally posted by kirbic:

The number of votes cast in the Free Studies indicates that folks like to vote them as well. I know I do, there are often some refreshingly different entries.


Maybe people like to vote on them because the quality of entries tends to generally be higher ?

On polls and popularity, I think you'll find on just about any poll that the predominant vote will always be in favour of 'no change' unless the other option is 'more features on top of no change'. That seems to be a truism and self-selecting in general. The majority of users are here because they like how things are.

The fallacy in putting all your faith in the votes is that we'd still look a lot like this if it was based on poll results.
03/06/2008 04:42:15 PM · #15
I feel that it would increase creativity and quality. Sure, you will still have individuals who wait until the last minute and throw something together, but there would be many who would utilize the extra time provided to try different approaches toward the theme. Also, there are many who have limited time to shoot as it is and sometimes weather or other elements hinder them from actually getting the shot they really want, the extra time would give them more opportunity to achieve what they really want. I'm not in favor of throwing out the current challenges as they are, but an added month long, themed members challenge would be refreshing.

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Message edited by author 2008-03-06 16:43:22.
03/06/2008 04:42:25 PM · #16
Originally posted by BeeCee:

IMO, part of the challenge is working under a short deadline, pushing us to become more creative in not only conceiving an idea but in implementing it quickly.

All of us could come up with better pictures "if only"...


This is very important to me, I love having the short deadline to preform especially when the DPL is running.

The week turnaround is a good thing......puts the pressure on straight away.
03/06/2008 04:47:06 PM · #17
Originally posted by keegbow:

Originally posted by BeeCee:

IMO, part of the challenge is working under a short deadline, pushing us to become more creative in not only conceiving an idea but in implementing it quickly.

All of us could come up with better pictures "if only"...


This is very important to me, I love having the short deadline to preform especially when the DPL is running.

The week turnaround is a good thing......puts the pressure on straight away.


I don't think that Gordon was suggesting to rid the week long challenges, but instead supplement them with a month long challenge that has a theme. I, too, feel the week long challenges are fun and the added time challenge makes it the more interesting, but a month long theme challenge would be a nice supplement to the current challenges.

Message edited by author 2008-03-06 16:47:38.
03/06/2008 05:31:28 PM · #18
what if the month long 'themed' challenge was focused on the technical aspects of photography ?

that would solve the issue for folks who want to see more of them, while at the same time giving folks ample time to get a grasp on the particular technique.

and at the same time not affecting the creatively themed weekly challenges that predominate now.

Message edited by author 2008-03-06 17:32:22.
03/06/2008 06:07:37 PM · #19
Originally posted by kirbic:

The current poll clearly reinforces what the number of entries tells us; the Free Studies are a very popular site feature. The number of votes cast in the Free Studies indicates that folks like to vote them as well. I know I do, there are often some refreshingly different entries.


I'm just curious as to why the poll won't just run for 6 days...

Originally posted by current poll:

This poll was open for 5.95833333333 days, beginning on Mar. 5th, 2008 and ending on Mar. 11th, 2008


Maybe it's the last minute pollsters that might skew the results! :-P
03/06/2008 06:07:47 PM · #20
Originally posted by soup:

what if the month long 'themed' challenge was focused on the technical aspects of photography ?

that would solve the issue for folks who want to see more of them, while at the same time giving folks ample time to get a grasp on the particular technique.

and at the same time not affecting the creatively themed weekly challenges that predominate now.


This actually sounds really good. :-)
03/07/2008 03:31:42 AM · #21
Originally posted by soup:

what if the month long 'themed' challenge was focused on the technical aspects of photography ?

that would solve the issue for folks who want to see more of them, while at the same time giving folks ample time to get a grasp on the particular technique.

and at the same time not affecting the creatively themed weekly challenges that predominate now.


Y'know, that makes sense... wow! :)
03/07/2008 04:54:02 AM · #22
Originally posted by trevytrev:

Originally posted by keegbow:

Originally posted by BeeCee:

IMO, part of the challenge is working under a short deadline, pushing us to become more creative in not only conceiving an idea but in implementing it quickly.

All of us could come up with better pictures "if only"...


This is very important to me, I love having the short deadline to preform especially when the DPL is running.

The week turnaround is a good thing......puts the pressure on straight away.


I don't think that Gordon was suggesting to rid the week long challenges, but instead supplement them with a month long challenge that has a theme. I, too, feel the week long challenges are fun and the added time challenge makes it the more interesting, but a month long theme challenge would be a nice supplement to the current challenges.


If they are extra challenges then that would be good, the more challenges the better.
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