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03/06/2008 08:16:24 PM · #76 |
I was going to lament that it's basic editing, but when I looked in my blur folder, most of those are basic, including this one up there, which I kinda like. So I guess it's not a bad thing to only have basic for this challenge. |
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03/07/2008 09:37:46 PM · #77 |
Defintion: Blurry
1. To make indistinct and hazy in outline or appearance; obscure.
2. To smear or stain; smudge.
3. To lessen the perception of; dim: "For street children . . . drugs offer the chance to blur their hopeless poverty" Alma Guillermoprieto.
v.intr.
1. To become indistinct.
2. To make smudges or stains by smearing.
n.
1. A smear or blot; a smudge.
2. Something that is hazy and indistinct to the sight or mind.
I think many of you have an overly simplistic perception of what "blurry" can mean (Camera tossing? Simple panning?).
Examples: 1.)The heat from an open flame can blur subjects, but what if the flame itself is in focus? Is the flame itself not a
chaotic, disorganized element, by it's nature?
2.)Saran Wrap, anyone?
3.)petroleum jelly/Vaseline on a mirror/looking glass?
My point is, many of you seem to want to take the easy way out, and some seem prepared to "ding" others in the voting for thinking outside the box. Wow. Anyone can take a blurry disorganized picture, keeping it composed and interesting is the challenge.
Why would DPSC seek to pervert their own hobby by challenging people to to do something a monkey could do? I doubt it. They're looking for creative, interesting ways to go against the grain and foment new ideas, and encourage fun ways to to compose digital imagery, IMO.
I take the challenge as so: An engaging, interesting image with unorganized and blurry subjects,
I could, for a generic example, dump some chess pieces from a cup, onto the playing board, shoot it through crinkled saran wrap, and still be focal on all the imperfections on the wrap, making them sharp - but the image subjects, the chessboard/pieces, would be quite blurry and disorganized.
You could do this anywhere, with any subject.
I catch myself wondering why SC even posts descriptions for their challenges. My preferance would be to simply say "Blurry Mess", and let the chips fall. The way they do it now, there's too many "gotcha!" people that wanna break the challenge down to it's lowest common denominator.
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03/07/2008 10:00:11 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I will bet anybody a beer that the winning shots have at least the subject in tac-sharp focus. I have no faith that the voters will give high votes to totally blurry shots, it's just TOO against the grain. I think it will be VERY challenging to figure out what will do well in this challenge. :-) |
Originally posted by hopper:
can't disagree ... it's also pretty easy to predict the outcry after voting when people feel short changed getting beat by images that have something in focus. |
When I go to vote on this challenge, I don't think I will vote down just because a bit of the image is in focus (probably will if most of the image is, of course). However, this isn't just another motion panning challenge. I'll be very disappointed if I don't see some abstracts do well. |
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03/07/2008 10:02:13 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by Citadel:
So my final analysis? I am going to be voting based on composition and colors. The more abstract the shot the better. And of course, if it look like a snapshot that's a little bit OOF? I'm going to ding it I am afraid. In any event, we might see someone ribbon who doesn't typically ribbon. (MEIN GOTT! I have a chance!!!) |
Composition and colors were really important to me, too, when composing and editing my shot. And I hope you're right about the ribboning.. it would be great :-D |
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03/07/2008 10:07:51 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by supernaught:
Defintion: Blurry
1. To make indistinct and hazy in outline or appearance; obscure.
2. To smear or stain; smudge.
3. To lessen the perception of; dim: "For street children . . . drugs offer the chance to blur their hopeless poverty" Alma Guillermoprieto.
v.intr.
1. To become indistinct.
2. To make smudges or stains by smearing.
n.
1. A smear or blot; a smudge.
2. Something that is hazy and indistinct to the sight or mind.
I think many of you have an overly simplistic perception of what "blurry" can mean (Camera tossing? Simple panning?).
Examples: 1.)The heat from an open flame can blur subjects, but what if the flame itself is in focus? Is the flame itself not a
chaotic, disorganized element, by it's nature?
2.)Saran Wrap, anyone?
3.)petroleum jelly/Vaseline on a mirror/looking glass?
My point is, many of you seem to want to take the easy way out, and some seem prepared to "ding" others in the voting for thinking outside the box. Wow. Anyone can take a blurry disorganized picture, keeping it composed and interesting is the challenge.
Why would DPSC seek to pervert their own hobby by challenging people to to do something a monkey could do? I doubt it. They're looking for creative, interesting ways to go against the grain and foment new ideas, and encourage fun ways to to compose digital imagery, IMO.
I take the challenge as so: An engaging, interesting image with unorganized and blurry subjects,
I could, for a generic example, dump some chess pieces from a cup, onto the playing board, shoot it through crinkled saran wrap, and still be focal on all the imperfections on the wrap, making them sharp - but the image subjects, the chessboard/pieces, would be quite blurry and disorganized.
You could do this anywhere, with any subject.
I catch myself wondering why SC even posts descriptions for their challenges. My preferance would be to simply say "Blurry Mess", and let the chips fall. The way they do it now, there's too many "gotcha!" people that wanna break the challenge down to it's lowest common denominator. |
1) it's not the sc who come up with the challenges or the description
2) it's one of us
If you don't want a description, suggest a topic and don't provide one. If Langdon chooses your suggestion, we will have a challenge with no description. |
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03/07/2008 10:46:34 PM · #81 |
Oooh, this one did REALLY well in the challenge it was entered:
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03/08/2008 12:57:25 AM · #82 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Oooh, this one did REALLY well in the challenge it was entered:
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Wimp.
What? You KNEW I had to say it. :P
The blur side challenge and the ongoing blur thread has all kinds of examples of excellence that would meet this challenge. I'm going back through my own entries to find one to redo. |
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03/08/2008 01:27:46 AM · #83 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
The blur side challenge and the ongoing blur thread has all kinds of examples of excellence that would meet this challenge. I'm going back through my own entries to find one to redo. |
Where's the challenge in that? Why not just build a time machine and see what wins then redo that?
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03/08/2008 10:43:02 AM · #84 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by levyj413:
The blur side challenge and the ongoing blur thread has all kinds of examples of excellence that would meet this challenge. I'm going back through my own entries to find one to redo. |
Where's the challenge in that? Why not just build a time machine and see what wins then redo that? |
I already met the challenge; now I'm just gonna get it scored. :P
Besides, I never claimed I was creative on demand. |
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03/08/2008 11:03:46 AM · #85 |
| I am anticipating many schools of thought here. One being abstracts. I wonder how they will do in relationship to something that is more recognizable, yet blurred. Bring out the Vaseline folks..... blur is on the way. |
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03/08/2008 11:07:39 AM · #86 |
Originally posted by Jutilda:
... Bring out the Vaseline folks..... blur is on the way. |
LOL! :-) |
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03/08/2008 01:01:18 PM · #87 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Oooh, this one did REALLY well in the challenge it was entered:
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Wimp.
What? You KNEW I had to say it. :P
The blur side challenge and the ongoing blur thread has all kinds of examples of excellence that would meet this challenge. I'm going back through my own entries to find one to redo. |
Didn't I hear you just self-DQ a shot in the last League of Death? :P |
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03/08/2008 01:30:21 PM · #88 |
| i'm editing one up from yesterday, but as usual...in my mind i'm excited and think it could be a top 10/20 contender, but it will more than likely end up being mid 5s, and in the hundreds. lol we'll see! |
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03/08/2008 04:44:32 PM · #89 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Didn't I hear you just self-DQ a shot in the last League of Death? :P |
Hmm? Nope. I've never self-DQ'd. I briefly thought about it because I screwed up the size, but didn't. |
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03/09/2008 10:11:24 PM · #90 |
Completely abstractand blurry, and pretty
Mostly abstract and blurry, and less pretty
Not very much abstract and maybe not blurry enough
It's really hard to choose! |
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03/10/2008 05:05:49 AM · #91 |
Originally posted by klstover:
Completely abstractand blurry, and pretty
Mostly abstract and blurry, and less pretty
Not very much abstract and maybe not blurry enough
It's really hard to choose! |
I still think creative adaptation of cling wrap, petroleum jelly, heat blur and ice could be viable ways to come up with the interesting, or engaging factor. The potential for abstract with any of these is still open territory, and fertile ground for experimentation. I'm going with one of these.
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03/10/2008 08:38:12 AM · #92 |
| This is the second challenge I have entered and I not doing well in the first so I'm hoping for better. I'm tired of DNMC comments. I still like the photo even if people didn't agree with my interpretation of the challenge. My blurry image is completely abstract looking. I also will have a hard time giving anything that isn't completely blurry a good score. My interpretation is that there is to be nothing in focus. |
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03/10/2008 09:18:30 AM · #93 |
It's going to be a difficult challenge to leave comments on. I think objectivity will be out the window on this one. I also expect the scores handed out during the challenge will be all over the place, depending on the voters individual interpretation of what meets the theme.
Looking forward to seeing the entries. |
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03/10/2008 06:54:47 PM · #94 |
I rarely keep shots such as this, but this was one that, although very blurry, I still liked. I just shot it 4 months too early.
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03/11/2008 09:14:48 AM · #95 |
Originally posted by dponlyme:
This is the second challenge I have entered and I not doing well in the first so I'm hoping for better. I'm tired of DNMC comments. I still like the photo even if people didn't agree with my interpretation of the challenge. My blurry image is completely abstract looking. I also will have a hard time giving anything that isn't completely blurry a good score. My interpretation is that there is to be nothing in focus. |
I'm keeping an open mind here, and will score 8s, 9s, possibly 10s to outta the box thinkers who do something creative and interesting. Blurry, and messy aren't necessarily congruent with one another. That shot of the lamp shop doesn't say messy - just blurry, and is hardly engaging. Do we really want to see dozens of simply blurry, out of focus shots? Disorganized - does that apply in this shot? No, in fact, everything is completely organized.
Abstracts might indeed be key...
Message edited by author 2008-03-11 09:20:36.
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03/11/2008 10:00:09 AM · #96 |
| Isn't it great that we can all have our own opinion! |
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03/11/2008 11:44:51 AM · #97 |
Originally posted by supernaught:
I'm keeping an open mind here, and will score 8s, 9s, possibly 10s to outta the box thinkers who do something creative and interesting. Blurry, and messy aren't necessarily congruent with one another. That shot of the lamp shop doesn't say messy - just blurry, and is hardly engaging. Do we really want to see dozens of simply blurry, out of focus shots? Disorganized - does that apply in this shot? No, in fact, everything is completely organized.
Abstracts might indeed be key... |
I'm glad you have your own opinion, but that was rude. Here's some constructive criticism for you - work on your comments...
Message edited by author 2008-03-11 11:48:13. |
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03/11/2008 12:04:07 PM · #98 |
Originally posted by litlbopeep:
Originally posted by supernaught:
I'm keeping an open mind here, and will score 8s, 9s, possibly 10s to outta the box thinkers who do something creative and interesting. Blurry, and messy aren't necessarily congruent with one another. That shot of the lamp shop doesn't say messy - just blurry, and is hardly engaging. Do we really want to see dozens of simply blurry, out of focus shots? Disorganized - does that apply in this shot? No, in fact, everything is completely organized.
Abstracts might indeed be key... |
I'm glad you have your own opinion, but that was rude. Here's some constructive criticism for you - work on your comments... |
I'm hardly a fan of supernaught, but I do have to ask...what was "rude" about his thoughts on the lampshop photo? The comment was made in the context of this challenge (Blurry), which goes on in the challenge description to say: "create the blurriest, most chaotic and disorganized image you canĂ¢€”and still have it be engaging and interesting.".
I think what he was saying is the image (to him) isn't chaotic and disorganized enough.
I don't think everything needs to be a total abstract as supernaught pointed out earlier. I think somewhere in between abstract and readily recognizable will work. But hey, that's just my opinion. :-) |
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03/11/2008 02:05:57 PM · #99 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by litlbopeep:
Originally posted by supernaught:
I'm keeping an open mind here, and will score 8s, 9s, possibly 10s to outta the box thinkers who do something creative and interesting. Blurry, and messy aren't necessarily congruent with one another. That shot of the lamp shop doesn't say messy - just blurry, and is hardly engaging. Do we really want to see dozens of simply blurry, out of focus shots? Disorganized - does that apply in this shot? No, in fact,
everything is completely organized.
Abstracts might indeed be key... |
I'm glad you have your own opinion, but that was rude. Here's some constructive criticism for you - work on your comments... |
I'm hardly a fan of supernaught, but I do have to ask...what was "rude" about his thoughts on the lampshop photo? The comment was made in the context of this challenge (Blurry), which goes on in the challenge description to say: "create the blurriest, most chaotic and disorganized image you canĂ¢€”and still have it be engaging and interesting.".
I think what he was saying is the image (to him) isn't chaotic and disorganized enough.
I don't think everything needs to be a total abstract as supernaught pointed out earlier. I think somewhere in between abstract and readily recognizable will work. But hey, that's just my opinion. :-) |
I know what he was saying. I guess I just feel that maybe there is a more tactful way to add your 2cents...that's all ;-)
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03/11/2008 02:19:18 PM · #100 |
Originally posted by hipychik:
Isn't it great that we can all have our own opinion! |
LMAO, Terry. So subtle, yet so right.
I for one can't wait for this challenge to start. I'm dying to see whether my entry will score a 3 or a 7. ;>P |
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