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03/04/2008 07:35:50 PM · #176 |
Originally posted by yanko:
I like the idea of judge challenges. It would be like a new dpchallenge and who isn't for that? Wouldn't this be cool to see on the home page for one week just to test it out?
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The only problem with this is all the wonderful photographers that have been left out of the judging pool. |
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03/04/2008 07:37:02 PM · #177 |
Originally posted by yanko:
I like the idea of judge challenges. It would be like a new dpchallenge and who isn't for that? Wouldn't this be cool to see on the home page for one week just to test it out?
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One yes, but not all of them. |
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03/04/2008 07:48:41 PM · #178 |
I don't have time to read all the way thru this thread, so here is my suggestion if this event "has to happen."
To restrict the number of images in judging, allow entries for a week, then use a computer lottery to pick a comfortable number of images for the judges to vote on from each weeks entries.
Then, all of the images submitted for the week could go into a general site vote, as they do now. At the end of the voting/judging week, both results would be announced.
That would be a fair way to pick which images get judged, as well as allowing us to see how the results compare.
My $ .02 Back to the regular programing. : )
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03/04/2008 08:03:03 PM · #179 |
I'm singing with  JulietNN. |
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03/04/2008 08:18:09 PM · #180 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by pawdrix:
I would say ANY member can enter an image...so there will be 400-600 images and the jury should vote them ALL. It's not that difficult to vote that many images. If a Memeber agrees to be on the jury they will simply agree to vote on all the image...no biggie.
Comments, while nice should NOT be necessary. That will kill them. I'd rather they look at an image fairly and properly, then vote. Commenting is cool but might zonk too much of their time and make it a harder endeavor.
Picking a jury is harder but I would highly reccomend it NOT be based on being a Ribbon Winner. There are many factors that would make this Challenge a cool thing that lie far outside the DPC norm. I think that's the most important thing to have in play. |
I think that's the biggest question with this. How does one choose the jury? On what criteria? |
There is a juried show every year at the local Art Institute. They have a committee that selects and solicits potential jurors. |
Relating that to this site, are you suggesting that the SC be the committee and they solicit who they think should be on the jury? Or should the committee be some other group? In my mind it should be some other group. How that group is chosen, I have no idea. |
Not to pile work on the SC, but perhaps they could select the first committee. Then each committee would also be responsible for selecting the subsequent committee members. or not.
Message edited by author 2008-03-04 20:19:22. |
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03/04/2008 09:15:50 PM · #181 |
Originally posted by karmat:
Originally posted by De Sousa:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Sounds like we need DPChallenge and DPChallengePlus. |
I don't think we need a DPChallengePlus. We do need a DPChallenge that accept and respect different point of views out of stockphoto/mainstream taste. Actions to encourage people to find different ways of doing photography should be supported and promoted by DPC and all the members. No one of the best examples in photography are doing stockphotos. We should care about learning the best and not only the easyt and poor way of doing a clean photo. Other kind of challenges, different from the actual process, should exist and officially supported by DPC. |
Not that I necessarily disagree, but why?
eta: three important letters. :) |
"...But why?"
I see DPC as a wonderful learning place and I think things should be kept around this objective: - Learning. Currently at DPC the learning process is... 1. Take a sharp image, 2. use the rules of thirds and 3. keep it clean without distracting elements. Well, this is the basics for any newbie... But there are more things to learn about and higher steps to jump on. What should we expect from the voters if they are just learning the basics? Every thing out of this context will be killed cause it doesn't match what the voters aim for (a sharp and clean image aka "eye candy" photograph).
So, IMO, challenges with Judges will not get us (all DPC members and users) to the next step. Instead, a culture to a next level on the learning process should be supported officially by DPC. It could be as simple as creating every week one Challenge where people would be encouraged to create images breaking the basics, using richer compositions and asking the voters to vote on aesthetic more than in the sharpness of the image. It's just a matter of culture and attitude that is missing to this place, for to keep DPC the best learning website in the net and for the near future as well. Actualy DPC as around 100.000 users, I would love to see DPC with 1.000.000 users with much more diversity and a place for all. There's much more than "eye candy" photographs, and we should care about that. |
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03/04/2008 10:30:25 PM · #182 |
Originally posted by De Sousa:
eta: three important letters. :) |
"...But why?"
I see DPC as a wonderful learning place and I think things should be kept around this objective: - Learning. Currently at DPC the learning process is... 1. Take a sharp image, 2. use the rules of thirds and 3. keep it clean without distracting elements. Well, this is the basics for any newbie... But there are more things to learn about and higher steps to jump on. What should we expect from the voters if they are just learning the basics? Every thing out of this context will be killed cause it doesn't match what the voters aim for (a sharp and clean image aka "eye candy" photograph).
So, IMO, challenges with Judges will not get us (all DPC members and users) to the next step. Instead, a culture to a next level on the learning process should be supported officially by DPC. It could be as simple as creating every week one Challenge where people would be encouraged to create images breaking the basics, using richer compositions and asking the voters to vote on aesthetic more than in the sharpness of the image. It's just a matter of culture and attitude that is missing to this place, for to keep DPC the best learning website in the net and for the near future as well. Actualy DPC as around 100.000 users, I would love to see DPC with 1.000.000 users with much more diversity and a place for all. There's much more than "eye candy" photographs, and we should care about that. [/quote]
I agree with pretty much everything you say but those "cultural change" challenges seem to live and die right then and there. They don't take hold. The side Challenges (Blur, B&W etc.)are great but only a few pay attention.
The situation might call for Thor's hammer or a jury to help set some different standards. Usually left to their own device the voters and entrants can mangle things all too well. Look at the Eye's Have it Challenge for example, a simple, sweet, warm concept got twisted into an Eye Macro fiasco (IMHO).
Jorge, I don't disagree with you but it takes a village. (Good lord...did I just quote Hillary??? I need some sleep) |
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10/13/2008 12:37:06 PM · #183 |
| Bump, since it's a current subject. |
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10/13/2008 01:29:16 PM · #184 |
| With judges there wouldn't need to be votes given on images that is not being considered for the top 10 spots. The judges can discuss the top ten order and place them. No need to vote at all really....hmmmm don't think I would be interested... |
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11/13/2008 11:15:46 AM · #185 |
| I think that rather than five people telling me what the liked/didn't like about my pic I'd rather have all the voters tell me why they decided to give it a three or less so I can improve to please everybody and not just five random people. |
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