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02/08/2008 06:07:08 PM · #1 |
Pretty Basic, been looking for photo jobs and I see this one come up alot. I have seen some for $12/hr to DOE to simply asking what Pay requirements I would want. I don't know whats really fair. Can I get some suggestions. I have shot a few engagement things and took candids at a wedding, but I can follow directions and get whats asked. Whats a good rate to ask for or search out? Thanks.
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02/08/2008 06:13:06 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by jdannels:
Pretty Basic, been looking for photo jobs and I see this one come up alot. I have seen some for $12/hr to DOE to simply asking what Pay requirements I would want. I don't know whats really fair. Can I get some suggestions. I have shot a few engagement things and took candids at a wedding, but I can follow directions and get whats asked. Whats a good rate to ask for or search out? Thanks.
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imho the going rate for a newbie second cam is zilch, nadda, nought. From what I've seen in the UK its a bit like the old days but not quite as harsh as 'you' paying for the apprentiship.
Offer yourself for free a few times and build up your porfolio then you can start to quote your rate :) |
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02/08/2008 06:26:46 PM · #3 |
| I've heard on other sites that $50/hr is the going rate in the U.S., varies by location. |
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02/08/2008 06:31:20 PM · #4 |
| hmm... so free or $50/hour. Maybe I should say $25-30/hr. Thanks for the input guys. Maybe some others have advice. This is for the Sacramento area. |
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02/08/2008 06:36:11 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by jdannels:
hmm... so free or $50/hour. Maybe I should say $25-30/hr. Thanks for the input guys. Maybe some others have advice. This is for the Sacramento area. |
tbh I have no knowledge of weddings however, I'd still suggest free for a few weddings then $50/hr if its the going rate. the free bit is to get your portfolio up then don't undersel yourself
~ enter the peeps that know more ;) |
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02/08/2008 06:38:28 PM · #6 |
I would do it for unlimited access to the open bar. :-)
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02/08/2008 06:49:13 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I would do it for unlimited access to the open bar. :-) |
I don't know... with your uncanny ability to have 3 drinks at a time.. that might get kinda pricey! :OP
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02/08/2008 06:49:37 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I would do it for unlimited access to the open bar. :-) |
"Yes, you'll love my assistant. He's cheap, but the images are a bit blurry near the end of the night. Just remind your Bridesmaids not to believe his story about his Semi-Nude Art Project for school." |
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02/08/2008 07:02:14 PM · #9 |
| I dunno, but judging by the photos you have in your profile, I would say your time is worth far more than $12/hour. |
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02/08/2008 07:05:45 PM · #10 |
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02/08/2008 09:02:54 PM · #11 |
depends...I can find second shooters for free a great deal of the time, folks that want to start their own wedding biz and want experience. However, you can never find one when you need one!
Are you bringing gear? What kind of gear? (a rebel and a kit lens, no flash or a couple of 1d3s and 10 L lenses??) Have you second shot or been a primary before? DO you want to second shoot what you want or be told specifically what the primary wants, and some of the time that may mean more like assisting. Do you want to use the images you shoot in your portfolio?
Bring lots of gear, shoot same style as me, play second banana all day, and don't use the images then $25-30/hour.
Rebel and kit lens and you want to use the images in your album? Then you're shooting for free, if at all.
A lot depends on how serious you are about the work, your craft, etc. If we've never worked together then you'll get less than if you're an ace and we've worked together 10 times in the past.
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02/08/2008 09:30:17 PM · #12 |
$50/hour for someone that knows what they are doing. $8 an hour for someone that knows how to point a camera.
Seriously, I pay my non-shooting assistant $25/hour...$50/hour isn't gonna kill your budget for a wedding.
Message edited by author 2008-02-08 21:39:00.
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02/08/2008 09:45:23 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Seriously, I pay my non-shooting assistant $25/hour...$50/hour isn't gonna kill your budget for a wedding. |
Especially since it's usually covered in the wedding contract these days. |
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02/10/2008 09:29:46 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Seriously, I pay my non-shooting assistant $25/hour...$50/hour isn't gonna kill your budget for a wedding. |
Depends...I recently met a part time shooter that's shot 40 weddings over the past few years (school teacher the rest of the year) and charges $300-500. So yeah, $50/hour for 8 hours is gonna hurt her budget LOL
IMO, if you're paying a second shooter it has to be in the bill someplace - either as an extra cost option or part of a higher end package. So 'cost' is a relative thing. WHY you want/need a second shooter might be a better question - competitive advantage over other photogs in your area, backup for yourself, artistic reasons, logistical reasons, etc.
Of course you've got the labor issue, but you've also got a lot more images at the end of the day for someone to PP, and to somehow give the bride. More proofs costs more money. And consider having an employee..or subcontractor - and insurance and taxes. If the second shooter is truly self employed it's not much of an issue, but if not then it can be a big one - he trips on the steps and breaks his ankle. Who pays? He (accidentally of course) hits a kid in the head with his camera - who pays? He scratches a table at the reception when he leans a tripod on it and it slides and falls - who pays?
It was on the news today that the average wage in america is $17/hour.
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02/10/2008 09:39:08 PM · #15 |
| A friend and I do weddings together. If he books it, I get paid $50/hr. to be the 2nd shooter. If I book it I pay him the same. Whoever does the booking is responsible for all the post-processing work. |
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02/10/2008 11:02:11 PM · #16 |
I'm starting in about 2 months and they are paying me $10-$12 an hour. Not very much. The the whole point is for me to apprentice and learn something. I'll have to see how it goes.
I'll watch this thread and post back my experiences.... |
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02/10/2008 11:12:50 PM · #17 |
It's just my style, but I'd rather my helper NOT be shooting. I din't need more PP work and I can get everything I need to get. But, it sure is nice to not have to search for bride's great aunt Linda when it's time for formals. Also nice to have someone help me direct everyone.
The biggest part of being a wedding photog IMO is coordinating people and action. That's where I like help.
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02/11/2008 12:09:06 AM · #18 |
I like having a second shooter because I feel like I am the one being paid to do the "formals". Those are boring and time consuming to set up .. and while I'm doing it, there is a ton of action going on behind me. I let the second shooter get candids of the stuff that I don't have time to turn around and snap. I'd love to be the second shooter. But ya gotta get the money shots too....
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02/11/2008 12:09:20 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by amandak:
A friend and I do weddings together. If he books it, I get paid $50/hr. to be the 2nd shooter. If I book it I pay him the same. Whoever does the booking is responsible for all the post-processing work. |
That's an awesome idea!
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