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02/05/2008 11:55:25 AM · #1
OK - I realize that the challenge topic states "Your job is to photograph a product ..." but what about opening it to "take a photo "for" a product ad ...." meaning the product may or may not be in the image.

I realize the challenge deadline is today, but it seems like it would be more interesting to allow the image to advertise something that isn't necessarilly there (e.g. If you are advertising a radio program or insurance the image might be headphones or an abandoned car but couldn't possibly show the product itself).

Either way, I might approach it this way, but fear some DNMCs because of the challenge title. What thinks ye?
02/05/2008 11:59:00 AM · #2
It's people like you that make me not want to enter. Just follow the description. It's not called DPCHALLENGE for nothing.
02/05/2008 11:59:52 AM · #3
You're likely to get a couple of DNMCs this way, but why would you care? If it's a nice pic, it's a nice pic, right?
02/05/2008 12:01:07 PM · #4
Originally posted by metatate:

OK - I realize that the challenge topic states "Your job is to photograph a product ..." but what about opening it to "take a photo "for" a product ad ...." meaning the product may or may not be in the image.

I realize the challenge deadline is today, but it seems like it would be more interesting to allow the image to advertise something that isn't necessarilly there (e.g. If you are advertising a radio program or insurance the image might be headphones or an abandoned car but couldn't possibly show the product itself).

Either way, I might approach it this way, but fear some DNMCs because of the challenge title. What thinks ye?

Probably half of the economy is being driven by various service industries rather than durable goods, thus a huge amount of advertising is directed towards things that can not be depicted -- insurance, health care, etc. I agree, I think in this day and age an advertising challenge should include things in addition to tangible goods.
02/05/2008 12:01:21 PM · #5
depends on how good the shot is - if you pass the threshold where people are like "wow" that is cool, they will forget about the DNMC... but if it is just below that threshold then you will get slated and it will brown. It is a fine line you walk, trying to go outside of the "box"...

Good luck whatever you do - i have tried and failed to get a decent image for this one... still have a few hours to go tho so i might get some energy to try again.
02/05/2008 12:01:38 PM · #6
Originally posted by Chinabun:

It's people like you that make me not want to enter.


So, don't enter.
02/05/2008 12:03:54 PM · #7
I am NOT even entering to this conversation... I am going to win the blue and that's all I know :P
02/05/2008 12:08:14 PM · #8
From my experience, most people never read the description.

You'll get a split reaction. Some, like Chinabun, will be extremely literal. Others will appreciate the photo.

Where the exact division lies depends on your shot and exactly who votes on it.

The upshot is: enter what you want and know some people might hate it.
02/05/2008 12:16:40 PM · #9
It's people like me that make me me.

Originally posted by Chinabun:

It's people like you that make me not want to enter. Just follow the description. It's not called DPCHALLENGE for nothing.
02/05/2008 12:20:18 PM · #10
Wasn't planning on it. I dont understand why people can't just enter and quit crying because the challenge doesn't fit what you need. The world doesn't revolve around you.

Originally posted by mark_u_U:

Originally posted by Chinabun:

It's people like you that make me not want to enter.


So, don't enter.
02/05/2008 01:01:15 PM · #11
Originally posted by FocusPoint:

I am NOT even entering to this conversation... I am going to win the blue and that's all I know :P


Darn . . and I was hoping to win that :- (

I haven't taken a photo yet . . but I was still really keen to win the Blue . .

. . although I could live with Red or Yellow if I have to :- )

So long as it's just the two of us entering I think we have a working plan here !
02/05/2008 01:07:26 PM · #12
Originally posted by Jedusi:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

I am NOT even entering to this conversation... I am going to win the blue and that's all I know :P


Darn . . and I was hoping to win that :- (

I haven't taken a photo yet . . but I was still really keen to win the Blue . .

. . although I could live with Red or Yellow if I have to :- )

So long as it's just the two of us entering I think we have a working plan here !


HHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHHHHHHAHAAAAA (the most EVIL laugh here)

You try your BEST body... you ain't getting that blue ribbon.. it's mine.. IT'S MIIIIINE

*sirens?... they came to pick me up again?*
02/05/2008 01:09:05 PM · #13
Originally posted by Jedusi:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

I am NOT even entering to this conversation... I am going to win the blue and that's all I know :P


Darn . . and I was hoping to win that :- (

I haven't taken a photo yet . . but I was still really keen to win the Blue . .

. . although I could live with Red or Yellow if I have to :- )

So long as it's just the two of us entering I think we have a working plan here !


Don't you both now that I will get the blue?
02/05/2008 01:10:06 PM · #14
Originally posted by eyewave:

...Don't you both now that I will get the blue?


When are "they" gonna pick you up?
02/05/2008 01:46:05 PM · #15
I went and perused "Advertisement Revisited" and the first entry that seemed to be a photograph of something that wasn't the actual product was this :

I guess I just think that advertising is often more effective when the product itself is not literally represented - but please don't stop entering challenges just because I said this ;)
02/05/2008 02:05:00 PM · #16
Originally posted by FocusPoint:



.... You try your BEST body...


Isn't that a little suggestive? ;oP
02/05/2008 02:06:50 PM · #17
Posing any questions in front of the proposed audience is always the smart thing to do. That's how you get their feedback, whether good or bad.

Many ads for services have their icons and logos strongly associated with it, so it can work. Radio stations, NBC TV station's Peacock, Progressive Insurance's famous talking gecko.

So the answer is, as always, it depends. It depends on what you've got and how much of a risk you want to take.
02/05/2008 02:12:13 PM · #18
Originally posted by justamistere:

Many ads for services have their icons and logos strongly associated with it, so it can work. Radio stations, NBC TV station's Peacock, Progressive Insurance's famous talking gecko.


This is why ads fail with me. I thought it was Geico insurance that had a talking gecko!

I regularly remember clever ads without remembering what company it was. :)

I must be some kind of anti-focus group.
02/05/2008 02:13:58 PM · #19
an out-of-focus group? *runs and hides*

I'll get my coat.

Message edited by author 2008-02-05 14:14:07.
02/05/2008 02:17:30 PM · #20
Originally posted by FocusPoint:

Originally posted by eyewave:

...Don't you both now that I will get the blue?


When are "they" gonna pick you up?


Right after I got the blue, :-P
02/05/2008 02:25:53 PM · #21
Originally posted by eyewave:

Originally posted by FocusPoint:

Originally posted by eyewave:

...Don't you both now that I will get the blue?


When are "they" gonna pick you up?


Right after I got the blue, :-P


Ok, good... just don't resist them, they will put a nice white jacket on you so you wouldn't hurt yourself.

I will watch you from distance with my REAL blue RIBBON to make sure you are safe LOL
02/05/2008 02:35:24 PM · #22
Originally posted by FocusPoint:

they will put a nice white jacket on you so you wouldn't hurt yourself

The nice white jacket is symbolic for mental illness. Advertising often works the same way, they depict something symbolic rather than the real thing, especially when the real thing is difficult to depict.
02/05/2008 02:39:11 PM · #23
The "TALK" ends and "WORK" starts... I am going to enter tonight, and when I "SUBMIT" my entry, I basically will be "SUBMITTING" my own blue ribbon to my first page... it's like ordering Chinese food... I make the call and I eat the food, not anybody else... it will be simple and easy :P

Fired up?

Message edited by author 2008-02-05 14:39:45.
02/05/2008 02:59:39 PM · #24
Originally posted by Chinabun:

Wasn't planning on it. I dont understand why people can't just enter and quit crying because the challenge doesn't fit what you need. The world doesn't revolve around you.

Originally posted by mark_u_U:

Originally posted by Chinabun:

It's people like you that make me not want to enter.


So, don't enter.


Chinabun... I don't think Tate was "crying" as such...just bringing forth an idea that seems a bit off from the straight-forward. If I have an idea, I might also bring it forth in a forum to see if what my mind is saying is worth the effort. After all, he poses a decent idea. A different form of "Advertisement". Hey... Nike has been doing that sort of ads for a while now and half of the time you have to wait for the words at the end of a commercial to realize it was a commercial for shoes.

No disrespect intended here...but what irks me is when people get upset about someone else having a thought or idea and spreading the thought with others. metatate had a thought and sounded it out. As has been stated before... if you don't like his thought, don't read the forum entry. I hear it doesn't hurt as much that way.

Again... these are just my thoughts and absolutely no disrespect was intended towards you or anyone else.

Mike
02/05/2008 03:13:37 PM · #25
I think Chinabun's point was that the description is there for a reason, to indicate the scope of the challenge.

"Your job is to photograph a product and have it appeal to your audience: the users of DPChallenge."

(emphasis added by me)

To me, photographing a product indicates that it needs to be in the photo. Now, the product does not need to be something tangible. How you photograph an intangible product is up to you.
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