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01/30/2008 02:27:31 AM · #1 |
Both subjects this week are ones that really should be advanced editing.
Advertising? How realistic can that be without some flexibility?
And Eyes... well, other than "Pimping" them... we might needto clean up a few blood vessels, eye boogers and such.
Anyone else agree?
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01/30/2008 02:32:08 AM · #2 |
I was just thinking the same thing myself. I just took this photo of eyes:
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But had to do quite a bit of editing to get them to look like this. Not sure I'll even attempt the challenge in basic editing. |
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01/30/2008 04:25:49 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Both subjects this week are ones that really should be advanced editing.
Advertising? How realistic can that be without some flexibility?
And Eyes... well, other than "Pimping" them... we might needto clean up a few blood vessels, eye boogers and such.
Anyone else agree? |
Totally disagree. It's all about challenging yourself, see what you can produce within the rules.
Both these challenges have been done before with advanced rules so now lets see how we go with some basic editing. |
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01/30/2008 04:32:25 AM · #4 |
| On Forum thread that really should spell check. Looks like the Miller Man strikes again. :P |
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01/30/2008 09:26:08 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by jdannels:
On Forum thread that really should spell check. Looks like the Miller Man strikes again. :P |
ewwwww... gonna report that...lol
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01/30/2008 09:40:03 AM · #6 |
Anybody who has worked more than an hour or two knows that there is absolutely nothing called basic editing in the advertisement buisness so yes, if this challenge would even closely resemble "the real world" of photography, it would need advanced editing rules.
However, having it in basic is of course a challenge (one I might enter too as I usuallky shoot dozens of advertisement shots a day) but if this is supposed to be a learning site and possibly a stepping stone into the real world of photography, then I don´t really get that challenge being placed in basic editing. |
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01/30/2008 09:45:56 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Larus:
Anybody who has worked more than an hour or two knows that there is absolutely nothing called basic editing in the advertisement buisness so yes, if this challenge would even closely resemble "the real world" of photography, it would need advanced editing rules.
However, having it in basic is of course a challenge (one I might enter too as I usuallky shoot dozens of advertisement shots a day) but if this is supposed to be a learning site and possibly a stepping stone into the real world of photography, then I don´t really get that challenge being placed in basic editing. |
Word Up, Yo.
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02/01/2008 04:13:59 PM · #8 |
I had assumed an advertisement would include words, but then I see this is basic editing, so then the idea is either to produce a wordless ad or a photo that would likely be used in an ad campaign (something in which words might be added later). Right?
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02/01/2008 04:34:24 PM · #9 |
I like the idea of advertising being a basic challenge. Though my idea would be about 6000 times easier with advanced editing allowed it most likely wouldn't be as fun =)
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02/01/2008 04:39:04 PM · #10 |
I like basic challenges as much as anyone, but I agree with Leroy. Especially with the Eyes challenge.
Anything to do with portraits should be Advanced editing. |
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02/01/2008 04:39:12 PM · #11 |
Come on...this means that 250 people won't submit eye macros with loads of spot editing...surely people can still shoot a decent shot featuring eyes without needing advanced editing? That's why it's called a challenge. And anyone that can't falls into the 'photoshop is not photography' tubthumpers category.
I do agree about the advertising stuff though, but again it doesn't preclude brilliance - it just means working within different guidelines. Surely the professionals have to work to certain briefs...well any aspiring pro would need to learn to adapt and change to these requirements, rather than say 'but this is how I normally do it'.
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02/01/2008 04:41:24 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Quasimojo:
Surely the professionals have to work to certain briefs...well any aspiring pro would need to learn to adapt and change to these requirements, rather than say 'but this is how I normally do it'.
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Pros of any level don't have editing rules. It's whatever gets the job done most efficiently and cost effectively.
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02/01/2008 04:46:24 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Pros of any level don't have editing rules. |
Photojournalists do. |
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02/05/2008 07:13:21 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Larus:
Anybody who has worked more than an hour or two knows that there is absolutely nothing called basic editing in the advertisement buisness so yes, if this challenge would even closely resemble "the real world" of photography, it would need advanced editing rules.
However, having it in basic is of course a challenge (one I might enter too as I usuallky shoot dozens of advertisement shots a day) but if this is supposed to be a learning site and possibly a stepping stone into the real world of photography, then I don´t really get that challenge being placed in basic editing. |
agreed, I'm in... but a bit bummed that I couldn't clone out some disturbing specks in the BG and other tiny flaws that would normally be edited. Still hoping for a decent score though... |
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02/05/2008 07:43:18 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
Originally posted by Larus:
Anybody who has worked more than an hour or two knows that there is absolutely nothing called basic editing in the advertisement buisness so yes, if this challenge would even closely resemble "the real world" of photography, it would need advanced editing rules.
However, having it in basic is of course a challenge (one I might enter too as I usuallky shoot dozens of advertisement shots a day) but if this is supposed to be a learning site and possibly a stepping stone into the real world of photography, then I don´t really get that challenge being placed in basic editing. |
agreed, I'm in... but a bit bummed that I couldn't clone out some disturbing specks in the BG and other tiny flaws that would normally be edited. Still hoping for a decent score though... |
Agree too. I wish the Basic Editing rules could be extended to allow cloning out specks. |
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02/05/2008 07:49:10 AM · #16 |
the whole point of these challenges is exactly that, to challenge you, and to get you to think outside the box and come up with something that isn't conceived in PS! De sousa is somebody who you all should look at, some of the ideas he comes up with without having to resort to computer jiggery pokery are phenomenal - the guy must work in advertising! Some examples:
   
Theres no doubting PS can massivelly enhance your work, but come on, lets get flexing those cerebral muscles and really dassle ourselves with good old photography technique and imagination!!!
Message edited by author 2008-02-05 07:55:14. |
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02/05/2008 08:01:19 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by Magno:
the whole point of these challenges is exactly that, to challenge you, and to get you to think outside the box and come up with something that isn't conceived in PS! De sousa is somebody who you all should look at, some of the ideas he comes up with without having to resort to computer jiggery pokery are phenomenal - the guy must work in advertising!
Theres no doubting PS can massivelly enhance your work, but come on, lets get flexing those cerebral muscles and really dassle ourselves with good old photography technique and imagination!!! |
sure they are terrific shots, but in advertising it's all about creating the perfect image. Of course 95% has to come out of the camera, but the rest is just polishing up. and even that isn't allowed in basic.
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02/05/2008 08:11:25 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Puckzzz:
Originally posted by Magno:
the whole point of these challenges is exactly that, to challenge you, and to get you to think outside the box and come up with something that isn't conceived in PS! De sousa is somebody who you all should look at, some of the ideas he comes up with without having to resort to computer jiggery pokery are phenomenal - the guy must work in advertising!
Theres no doubting PS can massivelly enhance your work, but come on, lets get flexing those cerebral muscles and really dassle ourselves with good old photography technique and imagination!!! |
sure they are terrific shots, but in advertising it's all about creating the perfect image. Of course 95% has to come out of the camera, but the rest is just polishing up. and even that isn't allowed in basic. |
fair comment, I'm not disputing that, all I'm saying is that it is possible to produce outstanding images without having to resort to advanced photoshop! I use PS wherever possible simply because I'm new to this game and my photography skills are still somewhat basic. However, I still believe that the subject (captured by a competent photographer) is what makes the image, and no matter how much polishing may be required, an outstanding photo out of the camera will alway's remain an outstanding photo! Just my thoughts! |
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