Leave your photo's off Facebook - DPChallenge Forums

Panasonic Lumix 20mm f1.7 ASPH

01/25/2008 11:38:11 AM · #1

For those of you who don't listen to the Podcasts I thought I'd through out this little tidbit about Facebook and why you should leave your photo's off Facebook. This is an excerpt from the Facebook TOS

"When you post User Content to the Site, you authorize and direct us to make such copies thereof as we deem necessary in order to facilitate the posting and storage of the User Content on the Site. By posting User Content to any part of the Site, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to the Company an irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, fully paid, worldwide license (with the right to sublicense) to use, copy, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, excerpt (in whole or in part) and distribute such User Content for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, on or in connection with the Site or the promotion thereof, to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such User Content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing."

smardaz

01/25/2008 11:40:47 AM · #2

good info, these eula's are getting ridiculous and lawyers are starting to sue companies because of them stating that large corps have a unfair advantage because of their cashflow and teams of lawyers

Message edited by author 2008-01-25 11:40:59.

heavyj

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH4

01/25/2008 11:45:51 AM · #3

I actually emailed facebook about the images. They responded basically: We will never use your photos without your permission first. I asked for this in writing since I'm a photographer. They responded basically: No. When I asked why, they responded: "We would have to send letters out to everyone who wanted it this way." I responded with: "Why not just change the terms then?" No answer yet...that was 6 months ago I think.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

01/25/2008 11:51:54 AM · #4

Originally posted by heavyj:

The unfortunat part is that they're too big to care now... Would they use your photo's without asking??? my guess is that if they thought it was good enough for an add... YES they would, and when you did complain they'd say you agreed to the TOS and you should have gotten it in writing saying they wouldn't.

hence it's better to keep your photo's off :) that is unless you want them stolen :)

ClubJuggle

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

01/25/2008 11:54:00 AM · #5

Those terms don't seem at all ususual or unnecessary for the purpose. With which part of those terms do you take issue?

~Terry

01/25/2008 11:58:45 AM · #6

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Those terms don't seem at all ususual or unnecessary for the purpose. With which part of those terms do you take issue?

~Terry

I guess I'm not too keen on the thought that a shot of mine could end up being used in an add without even a mention of the fact I took it... frankly I do think it's unecessary for them to write into the TOS that they can use anything for any reason... what's the point?

fotomann_forever

01/25/2008 12:01:10 PM · #7

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Mountain... molehill...

Message edited by author 2008-01-25 12:03:15.

01/25/2008 12:07:15 PM · #8

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Not that that makes me feel any better at all... (and I did read the TOS before joining) but on a Photography site like this
a) I come with the expectation that publication may happen (when one day I get on that front page)
b) I've seen the steps taken to make sure that my photo's arn't just stolen
c) Given this community I'm sure the Lang man knows what kind of uproar would happen if he did

I'm not aying that it isn't a common thing... but as photographers we can be choosy about where our stuff goes... I would gather it's much more likely that Facebook would steal an image than here... I would hope

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/25/2008 12:08:41 PM · #9

Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Mountain... molehill...

not a mountain... just disscusion. with a good title so people will read it

not to mention most of us post stuff all over without reading this stuff... it's good to know

jeger

Canon EOS-5D

01/25/2008 12:11:53 PM · #10

I thought this article was relevant to the discussion.

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