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01/03/2008 09:39:18 AM · #51 |
I honestly don't know what was wrong with the 40d. All I know is that I would take like 4 or 5 shots in a row and then the camera would say 'busy' for about a minute, maybe less, then it would let me take more. The battery was fully charged earlier in the day and the display still showed it as full, no partial indication at all.
As for the bracketing, I don't use that at weddings, but one of my other photographic interests is promotional photos for bands and I use that EVERY time I do one of those sessions. I do landscape HDRs and that's not really a problem to change the bracket setting so I end up with 2 sets of 3 exposures. That works ok when the subject is not moving, but for people, and I DO use HDRs to shoot bands, trying to get the people to stand still for 3 shots is hard enough, trying to reset the camera settings between exposures isn't possible. (Getting musicians to sit still for just 3 exposures can be tricky to, but it works). It would be nice to be able to set it to 6 exposures in good light so I can take them all quickly. My bands love it. It makes them look all professional-like. ;-) |
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01/03/2008 09:42:38 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by kellian: I honestly don't know what was wrong with the 40d. All I know is that I would take like 4 or 5 shots in a row and then the camera would say 'busy' for about a minute, maybe less, then it would let me take more. The battery was fully charged earlier in the day and the display still showed it as full, no partial indication at all. |
The lag you mention sounds more like a memory buffer issue. What kind of card was in it? If it had a slow speed card in it, that was probably a delay writing the data from the buffer to the card. A good high-speed card would speed everything up markedly.
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01/03/2008 09:59:38 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by OdysseyF22: Originally posted by kellian: I honestly don't know what was wrong with the 40d. All I know is that I would take like 4 or 5 shots in a row and then the camera would say 'busy' for about a minute, maybe less, then it would let me take more. The battery was fully charged earlier in the day and the display still showed it as full, no partial indication at all. |
The lag you mention sounds more like a memory buffer issue. What kind of card was in it? If it had a slow speed card in it, that was probably a delay writing the data from the buffer to the card. A good high-speed card would speed everything up markedly. |
I'm using Extreme III cards and can shoot up to 17 RAW before the buffer slows down but only slightly. As one is cleared, it allows another in. Also, the buffer size depends on settings and how fast it shoots to fill the buffer depends on the shutter speed. |
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01/03/2008 10:03:07 AM · #54 |
It was an Extreme III 4 gig card... and I experienced this later during the reception. I even switched to high quality jpeg to see if that made a difference. It didn't.
Message edited by author 2008-01-03 10:04:15. |
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01/03/2008 10:06:53 AM · #55 |
Originally posted by kellian: It was an Extreme III 4 gig card... and I experienced this later during the reception. I even switched to high quality jpeg to see if that made a difference. It didn't. |
Did you have high ISO or long exposure noise reduction turned on? That's something else that limits the number of shots as well as buffer performance.
Message edited by author 2008-01-03 10:07:38. |
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01/03/2008 10:11:41 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by electrolost: nikon puts the D first.......D200 unlike canon who puts it last |
Canon started that way with it's first digital cameras (D30 and D60), but then it put it at the end for some reason. I didn't know what Canon would do when it came out with the model after the 20D, but it just went with 30D. |
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01/03/2008 10:17:57 AM · #57 |
isn't it enough just to know that canon owns about 80% or more of the entire worldwide camera market?
they must be doing something right if everyone uses them |
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01/03/2008 10:28:23 AM · #58 |
Originally posted by slide12345678: isn't it enough just to know that canon owns about 80% or more of the entire worldwide camera market?
they must be doing something right if everyone uses them |
56% of people using web browsers use IE...they must be doing something right if everyone uses them. :-)
2006 61%
2005 69%
2004 76%
2003 85%
Or, used to use them... :-P |
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01/03/2008 10:30:17 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by slide12345678: isn't it enough just to know that canon owns about 80% or more of the entire worldwide camera market?
they must be doing something right if everyone uses them |
Yes, it's called marketing. |
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01/03/2008 10:52:49 AM · #60 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate: you can bracket on your own. Only i of the 4 that did HDR found in-camera bracketing sufficient - not enough exposure spread at +/- 2 stops. |
Yup - that's why it helps to have a camera that'll shoot more than 3 brackets and more than +-2 (e.g., the 1D Canon's will shoot up to 9 brackets and +-3 without needing to touch the camera) Being able to shoot that as a burst in less than a second is quite handy and you can actually get it out quickly enough to do HDR portraits too if you wanted to.
Message edited by author 2008-01-03 10:53:50. |
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01/03/2008 11:46:57 AM · #61 |
Originally posted by Gordon: Originally posted by Prof_Fate: you can bracket on your own. Only i of the 4 that did HDR found in-camera bracketing sufficient - not enough exposure spread at +/- 2 stops. |
Yup - that's why it helps to have a camera that'll shoot more than 3 brackets and more than +-2 (e.g., the 1D Canon's will shoot up to 9 brackets and +-3 without needing to touch the camera) Being able to shoot that as a burst in less than a second is quite handy and you can actually get it out quickly enough to do HDR portraits too if you wanted to. |
Exactly.
And yes, I was using a high ISO, but I still found that frustrating. :-\ |
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01/03/2008 12:49:00 PM · #62 |
Ok, so the general consensus is to stick with what I know, so my lenses are interchangeable. I can't argue with that. Although the bracketing function is nice, I'm not sure it's nice enough to switch brands. Thanks to everyone for your input.
Message edited by author 2008-01-03 12:49:08. |
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01/03/2008 01:39:21 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by kellian: Originally posted by Gordon: Originally posted by Prof_Fate: you can bracket on your own. Only i of the 4 that did HDR found in-camera bracketing sufficient - not enough exposure spread at +/- 2 stops. |
Yup - that's why it helps to have a camera that'll shoot more than 3 brackets and more than +-2 (e.g., the 1D Canon's will shoot up to 9 brackets and +-3 without needing to touch the camera) Being able to shoot that as a burst in less than a second is quite handy and you can actually get it out quickly enough to do HDR portraits too if you wanted to. |
Exactly.
And yes, I was using a high ISO, but I still found that frustrating. :-\ |
Shooting at high ISO is fine however, to get the max possible performance from a burst and the buffer you need to turn off the high iso noise reduction in the menu. |
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01/03/2008 07:55:49 PM · #64 |
Rent a Nikon D200 or borrow one from a friend. Use a decent lens with it too! Just test the living crap out of it. This will answer more questions than we can.
Only YOU can justify the choice to switch over!
None of us are going to be able to tell you what to do. But we can answer any qeustion you need to help your final decision.
I don't use Nikons for just for the IQ, but many other factors like ergonomics, customization, flash system, and etc...
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01/03/2008 09:39:44 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by slide12345678: isn't it enough just to know that canon owns about 80% or more of the entire worldwide camera market? |
Huh? Are we talking all digital cameras, DSLR's or what?
Last I read the DSLR market was pretty well split between Nikon and Canon with the others showing minimal market share. |
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01/04/2008 08:31:48 AM · #66 |
Originally posted by slide12345678: isn't it enough just to know that canon owns about 80% or more of the entire worldwide camera market?
they must be doing something right if everyone uses them |
Only important if you want to be a lemming and not think for yourself. Personally, I like to evaluate my options instead of just jumping on a bandwagon.
Either camera will work fine. Try both and decide what you like better. |
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