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 01/26/2008 05:19:20 PM · #1151
I just downloaded the trial for Lightroom and have lots of questions, but it is a lot faster to view the day's shots with. For one, how do you save something once you've played with it? And where is the nifty "mark as rejected" function? If I learn to use it well enough, I may buy the darn thing!
 01/26/2008 05:38:32 PM · #1152
You don't need to save anything, it automatically memorises the settings you've just changed.

The flags (and also little stars for ratings) are just under the picture, and the 'delete rejected' function is in the photo menu. Just pressing the 'delete' button does the same job if you just want to delete a single image.
 01/26/2008 05:40:26 PM · #1153
Oh, forgot to say, you can only do it when you're in Library mode. Which you generally use for viewing, because pics load up faster than they do in the Develop mode.

Once you've flagged, rated or rejected things, the viewing filters are on the bottom right.
 01/26/2008 05:42:37 PM · #1154
Lightroom is sounding a lot like Rawshooter only RS is free, besides that what's the difference does anyone know?
 01/26/2008 05:44:32 PM · #1155
No idea, never used Rawshooter. (you see, I got brainwashed and indoctrinated at an early age :) )
 01/26/2008 05:57:56 PM · #1156
Originally posted by Wildcard:
Lightroom is sounding a lot like Rawshooter only RS is free, besides that what's the difference does anyone know?


Haven't used Rawshooter, but Lightroom lets you adjust with Fill Light for those really dark shadowy shots, you can adjust for clarity and vibrance, saturate and sharpen and edit for noise, in fact you can do much more, but I haven't got that far with it yet. Then, you can export it to PS to do more? And, then you can enter your shots in challenges and win Ribbons, then you become great in DPC!!
 01/26/2008 06:05:48 PM · #1157
I have not tried Lightroom but I do my sorting and deleting of my raw files using PS Bridge. It still lets me view the thumbs, which I can view at whatever thumb size I want. I label them with star ratings, and can batch delete the rejects..which of course are always more than the ones I keep. LOL
 01/26/2008 06:09:51 PM · #1158
Originally posted by SteveJ:


Haven't used Rawshooter, but Lightroom lets you adjust with Fill Light for those really dark shadowy shots, you can adjust for clarity and vibrance, saturate and sharpen and edit for noise, in fact you can do much more, but I haven't got that far with it yet.

I can do all that including not knowing how much I can do.

Originally posted by SteveJ:
Then, you can export it to PS to do more? And, then you can enter your shots in challenges and win Ribbons, then you become great in DPC!!


Ahhhh that's the bit I'm missing the ribbon winning combo, might be worth the money. :D

Message edited by author 2008-01-26 18:10:52.
 01/26/2008 06:12:14 PM · #1159
Originally posted by Wildcard:
Lightroom is sounding a lot like Rawshooter only RS is free, besides that what's the difference does anyone know?

Wasn't Rawshooter discontinued when Lightroom came out?
 01/26/2008 06:16:09 PM · #1160
Originally posted by SaraR:

Wasn't Rawshooter discontinued when Lightroom came out?


Probably, maybe that's why it's freeware.
 01/26/2008 06:35:02 PM · #1161
Originally posted by Wildcard:
Originally posted by SaraR:

Wasn't Rawshooter discontinued when Lightroom came out?


Probably, maybe that's why it's freeware.


No, I mean that I thought it was no longer available at all. I had Rawshooter Essential on my last laptop and would love to download it again!
 01/26/2008 06:44:33 PM · #1162
Sara theres a download link here I haven't tried it but it might be worth a go.
 01/26/2008 07:15:46 PM · #1163
Bobbie, you are a star. I shall play with it tomorrow as it 15 mins pat midnight and I need to get some sleep.
 01/27/2008 12:56:09 AM · #1164
Originally posted by purpleflutterby13:
You don't need to save anything, it automatically memorises the settings you've just changed.

The flags (and also little stars for ratings) are just under the picture, and the 'delete rejected' function is in the photo menu. Just pressing the 'delete' button does the same job if you just want to delete a single image.

So if you've made adjustments in Lightroom, you'd still need to export (or whatever) to PS to then save the file with a different name? And I'm assuming since it saves everything automatically, you'd need another folder for originals (for DPC purposes)?

I like the way you can flip through all the shots at full size in the Library mode without opening each one at a time in CS3. But I sure don't want to have to create duplicate folders - I already have too much stuff stored!
 01/27/2008 05:03:32 AM · #1165
Tutorial here - the guy's maybe a bit of an earache to listen to, but it seems worthwhile...

Or there's always the lost tribe in limbo between help and confusion...

and once you get there . . .

I don't know for sure, but my impression is that Lightroom saves originals per se by default.

Message edited by author 2008-01-27 05:04:45.
 01/27/2008 05:20:35 AM · #1166
Yeah, it, um... Don't know the technicals, but nothing it does alters the original file. Lightroom has its own catalog file, where it memorises for example sat +10, exposure +0.5, etc. So when you load up a file you've been working on, it opens the original file, then applies all the saved adjustments on top of it again (which is why the image takes longer to load up than a jpg would - more or less noticeable depending on how fast your computer is).

So the adjustments to the RAW file are always saved.
If, however, you want to use the file for something, like putting it on the web or printing it, you can do so by clicking the 'Export' button in the 'File' menu. (and you specify which type of file you want it exported as, what size, etc.)
 01/27/2008 07:00:46 AM · #1167
Very cool - thanks, folks! It's a gray and coldish day here so I think I shall sit at the computer and see if I can learn to use the tool.
 01/27/2008 07:14:22 AM · #1168
So from what I'm reading it does seem that lightroom is about the same as rawshooter. Is this true or am I missing something? Just curious. I use rawshooter but have never tried lightroom.
 01/27/2008 07:40:17 AM · #1169
Originally posted by Melethia:
Yes, the whole storage thing is getting to be a bit much, isn't it? There are days I go out and shoot all day, then simply delete the card. :-) It's not that I don't think I have anything worth processing - sometimes I just like to shoot and realize if I dump the card to the computer, I'll end up keeping a whole bunch of data that I'll never use again. Which reminds me, I really do need to do some housecleaning on files.... maybe next week.

I have about $80 wrapped up in a 500GB external hard drive.

I have 13,000 images in it that take up 43GB.

Best money I've spent so far!

I do clean out regularly, but it doesn't make me twitch any more if I don't get to it for a week or two.
 01/27/2008 07:51:13 AM · #1170
Originally posted by purpleflutterby13:
Lightroom rocks, it's so good! The workflow is fast and intuitive, and there's a load of adjustments you can make so much faster by tweaking with the dials in the right-hand menu than you would by opening and performing each individual adjustment in Photoshop. No need to save the same shot a hundred times either, since none of the underlying image data is ever actually changed. And Lightroom automatically saves settings as you're applying them. And makes it really easy to apply the same adjustments to a bunch of different photos (no need for recording actions, etc).

I have CS2 and Bridge. I can view thumbs easily (I have Bridge set up to view at about 2½X4) and if I need to adjust levels or something on a batch, CS2 allows me to manage that with as many images as I want. I have an older machine, but I have 1GB of RAM so it moves along at a decent pace.

I still do fine tuning one at a time, and if I'm unsure, I'll doink one and save it for later when I can spend more time. I usually allow myself time to doink the best one or two when I download, then go back later when the new batch twitchies abate.

I'm hoping to upgrade to a new unit and CS3 in March or April.

Does anyone else get so hyped when they've got a batch in their camera/card they're almost impossible to be around of you get between them and the computer before they download and preview?

I'm a middle-aged fat guy on a diet, but if I have a choice between a slice of Boston cream pie and fifteen minutes at the computer with a camera full......step away from the computer and nobody'll get hurt.
 01/27/2008 07:53:39 AM · #1171
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by purpleflutterby13:
Lightroom rocks, it's so good! The workflow is fast and intuitive, and there's a load of adjustments you can make so much faster by tweaking with the dials in the right-hand menu than you would by opening and performing each individual adjustment in Photoshop. No need to save the same shot a hundred times either, since none of the underlying image data is ever actually changed. And Lightroom automatically saves settings as you're applying them. And makes it really easy to apply the same adjustments to a bunch of different photos (no need for recording actions, etc).

I have CS2 and Bridge. I can view thumbs easily (I have Bridge set up to view at about 2½X4) and if I need to adjust levels or something on a batch, CS2 allows me to manage that with as many images as I want. I have an older machine, but I have 1GB of RAM so it moves along at a decent pace.

I still do fine tuning one at a time, and if I'm unsure, I'll doink one and save it for later when I can spend more time. I usually allow myself time to doink the best one or two when I download, then go back later when the new batch twitchies abate.

I'm hoping to upgrade to a new unit and CS3 in March or April.

Does anyone else get so hyped when they've got a batch in their camera/card they're almost impossible to be around of you get between them and the computer before they download and preview?

I'm a middle-aged fat guy on a diet, but if I have a choice between a slice of Boston cream pie and fifteen minutes at the computer with a camera full......step away from the computer and nobody'll get hurt.


Hehe...quit talkin' about me! LOL
 01/27/2008 07:56:04 AM · #1172
Quote: "Adjustments you make to images in Lightroom won't alter the original data, whether you're working on a JPEG, TIFF, DNG, or camera raw file." Adobe Lightroom
 01/27/2008 07:57:59 AM · #1173
Originally posted by purpleflutterby13:
Yeah, it, um... Don't know the technicals, but nothing it does alters the original file. Lightroom has its own catalog file, where it memorises for example sat +10, exposure +0.5, etc. So when you load up a file you've been working on, it opens the original file, then applies all the saved adjustments on top of it again (which is why the image takes longer to load up than a jpg would - more or less noticeable depending on how fast your computer is).

So the adjustments to the RAW file are always saved.
If, however, you want to use the file for something, like putting it on the web or printing it, you can do so by clicking the 'Export' button in the 'File' menu. (and you specify which type of file you want it exported as, what size, etc.)

I'm of the impression from people way smarter/more experienced than I that it isn't so much the process as the RAW files themselves that makes it so the original files aren't affected by processing.
 01/27/2008 08:05:15 AM · #1174
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I'm of the impression from people way smarter/more experienced than I that it isn't so much the process as the RAW files themselves that makes it so the original files aren't affected by processing.


Exactly, RAW files are just that, raw data files, a bunch of numbers that can't be changed it's only in the conversion to an image file that the adjustments take effect. Raw files can't be altered, which is why they're the only files that can be used as evidence in court (in OZ anyway), just a useless fact for ya.
 01/27/2008 08:29:42 AM · #1175
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I'm of the impression from people way smarter/more experienced than I that it isn't so much the process as the RAW files themselves that makes it so the original files aren't affected by processing.


Originally posted by Wildcard:
Exactly, RAW files are just that, raw data files, a bunch of numbers that can't be changed it's only in the conversion to an image file that the adjustments take effect. Raw files can't be altered, which is why they're the only files that can be used as evidence in court (in OZ anyway), just a useless fact for ya.


Lookee that!

It took less than eight minutes for someone smarter/more experienced than I to show up and clarify that!

TS is AMAZING!!!
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