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02/12/2004 09:39:54 AM · #1
... what program do you use to download, convert or use for your RAW format pictures?
02/12/2004 09:47:04 AM · #2
My *ist D came with Pentax Photo Laboratory to convert from RAW to JPG
02/12/2004 09:52:29 AM · #3
I use Capture One.
02/12/2004 09:56:01 AM · #4
Originally posted by deafwolf:

I use Capture One.


Deafwolf,

what up? Kinda on the pricey side, no?
02/12/2004 09:56:12 AM · #5
I use Photoshop CS, it has a Camera Raw plug-in. I convert to TIFF and JPG.
02/12/2004 10:00:21 AM · #6
I've used:

Bibble 2002
Photoshop CS
Nikon Capture 3.5

Bibble and CS have clunky interfaces in my opinion. I was definitely disappointed at Adobe's first take on RAW file management.

Nikon's software may not help you, but as a Nikon user, I've found the software to be powerful for individual photo processing. As for batch processing, it stinks.

I hadn't heard of Capture One, so I'll give that a go.
02/12/2004 10:00:23 AM · #7
I' don't know if there are other programs that will extract RAW files for me, but I use the DiMage Viewer bundled with my camera.
02/12/2004 10:37:15 AM · #8
I think I've used pretty much all the Canon RAW converters out there.

I used to use breeze browser all the time. Now I only use breeze downloader and the browser for initial sorting and shoots using JPEG. It is also great for autocreating HTML galleries - I still use it for that task as well.

YARC I never did like much - mainly because the results were about the same as with breeze (both use the Canon SDK - though YARC has perhaps better noise reduction with ARF)

I own Photoshop CS and the RAW converter there is useable though has a really bad interface. I use it on my laptop for field work and inital review.

I use Capture One DSLR because it is far superior to any of the other options. The level of control of white balance, exposure and initial levels/curves is far beyond any of the other tools. The almost instantaneous feedback on changes is amazing, when compared to the poor interfaces provided by all the other RAW converters. The ability to convert to 3 different sized version in one step is also pretty nice.

Main drawbacks with CaptureOne

a 'weird' interface - nonstandard layout, buttons , shortcuts etc takes a bit of time to learn
Terrible JPEG support - just doesn't seem to handle them well at all
More expensive than the other options, Though the Drebel version is only $40 or so I believe.
02/12/2004 11:52:42 AM · #9
I've used Canon's, BreezeBrowser, and Thumbsplus.

Right now, I think BreezeBrowser is the best. Gives you great control. Also has a neat feature where you can specify Normal, Linear, or Combined conversion, where you can most easily select the best method for recovering highights, or get the best of both worlds. In addition to the standard raw controls, has built in smart noise reduction, histogram, gamma, saturation, reduction, etc. And can be used on groups of images (batch mode). Basically, you can do everything during conversion (except spot edit or crop). My most recent entry to a challenge was completely done during conversion, including the reduction to 640x480.

There's a free trial for BreezeBrowser so there's no harm in trying (as I recall the only restriction is that it will only show you a limited number of files in the folder; but all conversion controls are active). I wanted to try Capture One DSLR, but it only works with SLRs (not my G2).

02/12/2004 12:02:19 PM · #10
C1 pro, plan on buying it asap, still using the 30 day demo at the moment..

my post workflow is basic:

Open in C1 PRO -> Correct WB (done via simple slider or eye dropper) -> Adjust exposure (same as using levels in PS) -> Sharpen quite a bit (The D100 is pretty soft, and C1's sharpening is A+) ->Export into .TIFFs

Message edited by author 2004-02-12 12:03:16.
02/12/2004 12:09:34 PM · #11
Originally posted by jonpink:

C1 pro, plan on buying it asap, still using the 30 day demo at the moment..

my post workflow is basic:

Open in C1 PRO -> Correct WB (done via simple slider or eye dropper) -> Adjust exposure (same as using levels in PS) -> Sharpen quite a bit (The D100 is pretty soft, and C1's sharpening is A+) ->Export into .TIFFs


C1 only works with DSLRs. Rooster (and many others of us that have RAW format) can't use it.
02/12/2004 12:24:46 PM · #12
Fuji had one that came with my S2, but I love Photoshop CS raw converter, it make you feel like you're in the dark room with control.
02/12/2004 12:30:07 PM · #13
I use Photoshop CS too.
I´m not certain if it knows Olympus RAW format. But it works very well. The most useful feature of it is to get RAW file direct in PSD 16 bit. This makes a huge diference in high dinamic range photos and makes the tonal range more smooth. Once RAW are 12bits and JPEG 8bits there are a lot of information lost when you get a 8bits JPEG. Using 16bits to process RAW you can work at fullest information file.
02/12/2004 12:46:56 PM · #14
I have only used the Canon RAW converter that came with my G5. In short, I think it sucks. If it supported the G5 RAW format, I would use C1-DSLR, but it doesn't. For now, I don't see any real advantage for shooting RAW without a decent s/w package that lets you take full advantage. Maybe I'm missing something with the Canon s/w and if anyone has had a good experience with it, please share.
02/12/2004 12:51:21 PM · #15
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

I have only used the Canon RAW converter that came with my G5. In short, I think it sucks. If it supported the G5 RAW format, I would use C1-DSLR, but it doesn't. For now, I don't see any real advantage for shooting RAW without a decent s/w package that lets you take full advantage. Maybe I'm missing something with the Canon s/w and if anyone has had a good experience with it, please share.


Why not try Breezebrowser then?

//www.breezesys.com BreezeBrowser

(Just a happy customer...)
02/12/2004 03:05:25 PM · #16
Originally posted by Spazmo99:

I have only used the Canon RAW converter that came with my G5. In short, I think it sucks. If it supported the G5 RAW format, I would use C1-DSLR, but it doesn't. For now, I don't see any real advantage for shooting RAW without a decent s/w package that lets you take full advantage. Maybe I'm missing something with the Canon s/w and if anyone has had a good experience with it, please share.


breezebrowser is good for the non SLR canon cameras. The Canon software is actually the only RAW converter I haven't tried, but I've heard nothing but bad about it.
02/12/2004 03:17:00 PM · #17
my olympus software is crap & keeps crashing. I have to install it on another computer to see if it's my hardward or the CD. It's a pain!

I briefly used CS & loved it but I can't afford it 'cause it's mui $$. Anything out there that's good for Oly cams?
02/12/2004 03:49:53 PM · #18
I use dcraw and the rawphoto GIMP plugin. This software is primarily for Linux (and BSD), but is available for Windows and Mac, too. Yes, I realize this isn't a raw converter for your grandmother, but it works very well. ... And sorry, there's no EOS 1D MkII support yet ;)

Addendum: I forgot to mention that this is free software.

Message edited by author 2004-02-12 15:51:31.
02/12/2004 04:09:49 PM · #19
yeah the canon software sucks big. i was going to get C1 but we just got the Adobe CS package at work and it's good enough that I can't justify paying for C1 on top of that just now. CS is good enough that I can easily settle. I'm shooting RAW now!

James.

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

I have only used the Canon RAW converter that came with my G5. In short, I think it sucks. If it supported the G5 RAW format, I would use C1-DSLR, but it doesn't. For now, I don't see any real advantage for shooting RAW without a decent s/w package that lets you take full advantage. Maybe I'm missing something with the Canon s/w and if anyone has had a good experience with it, please share.


breezebrowser is good for the non SLR canon cameras. The Canon software is actually the only RAW converter I haven't tried, but I've heard nothing but bad about it.
02/12/2004 04:12:26 PM · #20
I use capture 1 , very nice, simple and powerful piece of program.
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