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02/11/2004 11:53:43 PM · #26 |
Maybe digital art and photographic art are just similar concepts. There are all sorts of darkroom tricks that can be used to create something that can't be created with the camera. I don't think the issue at hand is 'should we be able to do anything we can do in a darkroom?'
I don't even know what the issue at hand is anymore :) I have also tried to avoid this discussion but I keep getting in it over and over again because i'm passionate about my interpretation of what this site is about. I know what the original intentions of the founders were... I hope they find a way to maintain those intentions.
Message edited by author 2004-02-11 23:54:31.
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02/12/2004 12:13:48 AM · #27 |
Those intentions are surely kept in the Open challenges. I was drawn to become a member by the fact that I could edit pictures for the contest, feeling to limited by the open challenge. Maybe if there was a third weekly challenge or if the member's challenge alternated between a set of stricter rules (no screwing around other that strictly touching up, enforced by disqualification) and more relaxed rules with "visual" photographic integrity (as in, COULD this picture have been taken?). This would maybe loosen up the tension between the traditionalists and the whatever you-wanna-call-us.
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02/12/2004 12:28:29 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I know what the original intentions of the founders were.. |
Care to enlighten us?
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02/12/2004 11:03:34 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by tarique:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I know what the original intentions of the founders were.. |
Care to enlighten us? |
From the About section:
"The original idea behind the site was for it to be a place where the two of us and a couple of our friends could teach ourselves to be better photographers by giving each other a 'challenge' for the week."
From what I understand, the emphasis from the beginning has been to improve as photographers by emphasizing basic camera skills like composition, exposure, DOF control and lighting control and not computer processing skills in PS, PSP or whatever image editing S/W is available. Sites that emphasize the latter are all over the place and sites, like DPC, that emphasize camera skills are somewhat less so.
While nearly all digital photos can be improved with the application of some post processing in PS, shots that begin with good camera skills need a lot less work than those that start out displaying a more mediocre level of camera skills.
The real question is where to set the balance. Should DPC remain true to its original intent and retain the emphasis on camera skills or, shift that balance towards post processing skills in the computer? Clearly, the original rules favored camera skills and the new rules are a shift in the other direction, towards computer editing.
It's obvious, from the ongoing dialogs in forum threads like this one, that there is a split among all involved regarding this issue. Some believe that the new editing rules have gone too far away from camera skills and too far towards post processing. Others seem to favor moving further towards the PS side. There are also a wide range of opinions in between.
I was attracted to this site over others precisely because of the emphasis on camera skills over PS skills. Personally, I'd like to see the new editing rules pulled back, though not necessarily to the old rules, to emphasize camera skills more than PS. Another option would be to vary the rules somewhat from challenge to challenge. Ultimately though, the decision rests with the Admins, hopefully, in consultation with the Site Council and taking into account the opinions expressed by the members.
Some of my other posts would seem to indicate that my opinion is in favor of opening the rules to even more PS, but, sometimes I just need to disagree with everyone, including myself.
Message edited by author 2004-02-12 11:35:05.
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02/12/2004 11:28:28 AM · #30 |
just for the record i like the new rules if for nothing else i can duplicate a layer to work on. besides that - for the most part my entries are still edited with the basic rule set in mind...
but stacking layers is handy if you screw something up - or dont like the results of an adjustment.
i do my best to get a perfect result out of camera.
aside - no matter what the rules say - someone will always push them to the limit - or take advatage of a loop hole in them to produce whatever post porecessing effect they are after - there will always be war - always be poverty, always be hate groups, always be prejudice, always be power hungry politicians... there will always be a discussion about someone or group over interpreting the rules...
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02/12/2004 11:36:02 AM · #31 |
I laugh at this discussion because I'm heading in the opposite direction....not by choice mind you. But in the Letting Go challenge I tried to do some pretty basic adjustments to my photo (contrast/brightness, etc) and am so bad at that sort of thing that I negatively impacted my photo...have received a couple of comments about the lighting in my pic....they are valid as to my submission, but would not be as to the original!! In summary, I am an incompetent post-processing boob - this digital art thing you all speak of sounds fascinating but I haven't a clue (yet!). :-)
I like this discussion to the extent it causes me to think about the "digital art" boundary, if I have one, etc. It's been kicked around a lot lately, but I don't think that means there is nothing more to add. |
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