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11/12/2007 07:21:21 PM · #26 |
| mind you, based on the first 60 shots I've seen in duotones, it's well worth voting in. Some cracking shots. |
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11/12/2007 07:22:53 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by routerguy666:
Finally, your comment is just you giving your opinion about what you like. Writing it down agin and again doesn't mean that your basic notion of what makes good photography is not fundamentally flawed to begin with, nor does it mean you are correcting it by repeatedly unleashing it upon others. |
I guess that depends a lot on if you made up your mind right at the start and didn't learn anything along the way.
My idea of what makes a good photograph seems to change every few months or so. |
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11/12/2007 07:23:52 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Originally posted by routerguy666:
... it's ridiculous to have to comment on ribbon winning/top 10 shots.. |
Well, I don't know. Good shots do win ribbons. And good shots are good teachers. Those should be the first ones to be reviewed. |
Very good point. Commenting on ribbon winning photos is a great way to learn techniques and nuances of great photos. Learning to express your thoughts about a photo through commenting helps you remember better the next time you raise your camera to shoot. While an experienced photographer might take these things for granted, it never hurts to be reminded...and new photographers will benefit greatly from making comments on ribbon winning photos. |
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11/12/2007 07:29:56 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
My idea of what makes a good photograph seems to change every few months or so. |
Mine has changed dramatically after getting into Holga photography and admiring the stuff that Slate posts in its Magnum slideshows. I just wish I had time to look through them every day.
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11/12/2007 07:34:37 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by boysetsfire:
or the 2 minute voters club, dont press a key untill you actually see the bloody thing.
or the "anti-kneejerkers club" ? although im sick of clubs can we make it a society? |
Thesis: are all entries worth or deserving 2 minutes of your time ? |
No, there, I said it...that being said I don't understand the line of thinking that all images should be looked at for a certain length of time. It's taken me a while to develop my taste for what I think is worthy of my attention and simply glaring at something I find dull or gauche a little longer won't change my mind. Of course I've been at this photography thing a while so my likes are probably waaaaaay different than someone who has just picked up a camera, someone utterly consumed with "tack" sharpness, the "glass" whores, the pro-nudies, whatever etc...blah, blah, blah...maybe not, don't know, and I'm beginning not to care. |
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11/13/2007 03:45:02 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Jedusi:
Surely anyone who has time to read a challenge, take a shot, process it, prep it, upload it and enter it in a challenge should also have time and interest in casting some votes ? |
Take a shot : 1/250s
Prep/ upload it: 1 minute
Voting on a 150 entry challenge,
giving each entry 30 seconds attention: 1hr 15 minutes
....: priceless ? |
"Take a shot : 1/250s
Prep/ upload it: 1 minute"
What ?? Have a word with yourself . .
Unless you read the latest challenge with your camera at your side, then took a shot of the screen (in JPEG), and uploaded it immediately, I think you'll find your timings are a bit out there ;- )
I think you'll find the process takes a number of hours for most people to either set up an indoor shot and get a photo they are happy with, or to travel somewhere outdoors, capture a picture, come back, look at all the shot's they took, possibly narrow it down to a small handfull, work on them, choose the one you like, finish processing it, convert it and upload it.
After all this 1hr 15 min seems a small payback to me :- )
I really can't get my head around the argument - 'I want others to vote on my pictures . . . but I'm too busy to vote on theirs.'
We're all busy, however being part of a community is about giving as well as taking.
edit for spelling
Message edited by author 2007-11-14 12:16:32. |
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11/13/2007 04:41:03 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Jedusi:
I think you'll find the process takes a number of hours for most people to either set up an indoor shot and get a photo they are happy with, or to travel somewhere outdoors, capture a picture, come back, look at all the shot's they took, possibly narrow it down to a small handfull, work on them, choose the one you like, finish processing it, convert it and upload it. |
That'd be true if you went and shot something specifically for the challenge. |
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11/13/2007 05:12:25 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
Originally posted by travis_cooper:
...I just wish people would leave more comments... |
I wish people would leave less comments but put more effort into both writing them and into looking at the images they aim to discuss. |
Sounds noble in theory...know of anyone that can meet that standard? I'd love to read their comments. :-) |
I'm of the opinion that the challenges have grown to the point that the idea that we should be voting on 100% of the entries is obsolete and even conterproductive. I'd much rather see people vote 20%, doing so thoughtfully and commenting often, than focusing on a perceived need to vote on everything.
Of course, there are plenty of people who vote and/or comment thoughtfully on everything, and they have my sincere appreciation -- but if someone has only a limited amount if time to commit, I'd rather not see them "speed-vote" their way through a challenge.
~Terry
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11/13/2007 07:11:17 PM · #34 |
The idea of voting on all entries in a challenge may no longer be practical with such high volumes of entries these days but the PREFERENCE for doing so is not obsolete.
The way I have always voted (and prefer to continue voting) is to judge entries against each other as it IS a competition and not just a stand-alone rating of an image.
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