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10/28/2007 05:36:47 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by sher: Since they never could find anything they finally just let me go on through. At the airports in Dallas, Austin and Houston there was no problems at all, though. |
That's scary.
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10/28/2007 06:30:58 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by faidoi: They usually scan my bag 2 or 3 times at the airport and no problems.I even have a tripod hooked up to my Tamrac backpack. |
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10/28/2007 06:37:07 PM · #28 |
As many have stated above, I've traveled many times with my camera gear and I've never even had to take the camera out of the bag. I have, however, been asked ("for security reasons") not to take pictures inside the plane. Most flight attendants don't care but do be aware that some may be picky about it. It wasn't a big deal or anything... they just asked me to please stop taking photos inside the plane and I did. |
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10/28/2007 07:07:53 PM · #29 |
The only grief I had was international (Oz to US).... Within the US has never been a problem, although at times I have to nicely tell them to keep their greezy fingers off the damn glass :-/ What's funny is that the flashes never ever get looked at and they prob have more juice then a stun gun :-) The little ebay wireless triggers could actually set something off in the cargo hold, although the triggering is iffy at best. |
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10/29/2007 11:16:46 AM · #30 |
No problem for me, either ... although I checked my tripod (packed in my suitcase). Didn't think it would look too good to walk around Dulles Airport (DC) with my tripod in its bag slung over my shoulder, which would look a lot like a rifle bag. But yeah, the TSA website itself says that you can carry on "one bag of photographic equipment." I even took pictures in the airport terminals/concourse. (I had a great shot for the rainbow challenge from within the terminal, and then forgot that it ended on a Sunday night, the night I got home.)
Message edited by author 2007-10-29 11:17:45. |
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10/29/2007 11:22:23 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by petrakka: you can take it.
and if they say otherwise, it's a violation of your rights, and it's our responsibility to let them know that.
otherwise our rights will keep getting more and more abridged. |
I've never had any problems flying with a DSLR. Occasionally had to take it out, turn it on, let them look through lenses etc.
Don't think there is any actual 'right' that says anything about being able to fly with cameras though. Nor actually any 'right' about being able to get on a plane at all, really.
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10/29/2007 11:34:42 AM · #32 |
I had a strange experience flying to Italy from the UK in August. Backpack full of camera and lenses no problem - but I didn't have room for a tripod so I had packed a little screw fitting beanbag. The scanners picked it up as an 'unidentified organic object' - to quote the security man who gave me the third degree - (quite politeley) - and once i'd explained it they let me take it on board. All in all quite reassuring. |
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10/29/2007 11:50:31 AM · #33 |
Be careful with your film in the XRay machines. :)
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10/29/2007 01:48:45 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf: Be careful with your film in the XRay machines. :) |
...film...
..whats film? |
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10/29/2007 01:54:46 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by noisemaker: Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf: Be careful with your film in the XRay machines. :) |
...film...
..whats film? |
I see the Xrays got it already. I'm sorry. :)
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10/29/2007 02:08:03 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by Gordon: ... Nor actually any 'right' about being able to get on a plane at all, really. |
In the US. "common carriers" are not allowed to discriminate -- to keep you off the plane they'd have to have some kind of "valid" reason. |
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10/29/2007 02:20:26 PM · #37 |
My DSLR doesn't have a flying function. |
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10/29/2007 02:22:07 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: Originally posted by Gordon: ... Nor actually any 'right' about being able to get on a plane at all, really. |
In the US. "common carriers" are not allowed to discriminate -- to keep you off the plane they'd have to have some kind of "valid" reason. |
Southwest have recently taken to stopping people flying because they don't like the clothes they are wearing. I suspect 'being surly about not being allowed to bring your camera along' would be grounds to be locked up in some airports.
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10/29/2007 02:22:12 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by noisemaker: Originally posted by HawkeyeLonewolf: Be careful with your film in the XRay machines. :) |
...film...
..whats film? |
isn't that the murky stuff you wipe from your lens with a cloth?
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10/29/2007 03:01:25 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: Originally posted by Gordon: ... Nor actually any 'right' about being able to get on a plane at all, really. |
In the US. "common carriers" are not allowed to discriminate -- to keep you off the plane they'd have to have some kind of "valid" reason. |
That's where the imagination of the airline employees takes over.
If you read the actual passenger agreement that is part of your ticket, nearly everything is at the discretion of the airline. |
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10/29/2007 03:15:14 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: Originally posted by Gordon: ... Nor actually any 'right' about being able to get on a plane at all, really. |
In the US. "common carriers" are not allowed to discriminate -- to keep you off the plane they'd have to have some kind of "valid" reason. |
I would tend to agree with you General that they indeed cannot discriminate as it relates to providing the service, namely the conveyance of the individual aboard their vessel.
The issue of "discrimination" should not to be misconstrued as to meaning that they have a requirement to allow certain items on board, witness the recent banning of items such as lotions, shampoos and the like.
That they may not discriminate against the individual is indeed a valid point, but they most certainly can and do have the right to decide what if any items they will allow on board. I
Individual may be free to travel, but common carriers are under noobligation to carry the items they might deem dangerous, and should it transpire that this definition includes cameras, then I fear we would all have to place our cameras in with the rest of our luggage.
Ray
Message edited by author 2007-10-29 15:24:24. |
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10/29/2007 03:28:27 PM · #42 |
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I took my camera flying yesterday. They let me sit up front ;)
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10/29/2007 03:28:46 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99: That's where the imagination of the airline employees takes over. |
Too bad it seems that's the only aspect of the industry where they use a little imagination. |
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10/29/2007 03:32:36 PM · #44 |
In the US they *always* want to open all my bags and perform chemical tests on my photography equipment to make sure I'm not carrying explosives. After they've taken everything out and found nothing dangerous I usually tell them I can put it back in the bag again myself and they are glad to let me do it.
The most interesting thing that ever happened to me (at airports...) was in Zurich, Switzerland. They did this chemical test (they wipe some pad all over your stuff and then put it in a machine) and the machine started beeping like crazy. "Ah, this happens sometimes", the lady told me, "Probably an error.". So she does it again and the machine starts beeping again. Now she gets serious. "Please give me your passport and stay right here until the explosives team arrives." Now I got a bit concerned (but I was glad this happened in my home country and not in the US...). Four other police officers arrived and they started analyzing all my equipment, one lens at a time. Luckily my flight was an hour late, so I had time. In the end they found out that remainders (the machine detects the tiniest traces) of a lip balm I had used were on a lens. The balm contains glycerin, which can also be a component of explosives. The police officers were really nice in the end and I found out that one of them was a photographer as well and we had a little chat among "experts". ;-)
Now I make sure I always carry a lip balm in my camera bag, it'll quickly explain the alarm, should there ever be one again (but the evil terrorist could do this as well to distract from his explosives, so I guess they'll still check everything thoroughly).
Question for you: What would you do if they told you you couldn't take your camera equipment on board because of such an alarm? Does anyone know what the legal situation is? Is it possible that you never see your equipment again? |
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10/29/2007 03:37:18 PM · #45 |
I think I would change lip balm and also stop kissing my lenses.
Depending on how they stop you getting on the plane, you may I suppose have the choice of not flying and taking your gear with you. But if they suspect there really are explosives involved, I doubt you'd get to just walk away.
You could certainly not see your equipment for a long enough period of time that it wouldn't be worth the wait, if you happened to be unlucky.
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10/29/2007 03:40:24 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by Gordon: I think I would change lip balm and also stop kissing my lenses. |
Don't you do this? I love my lenses. ;-) |
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