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02/06/2004 08:48:51 PM · #1 |
Just took these shots for a friendly favour and wondered if anyone has any comments or tips on shooting this kind of thing.
The subject wanted them done to bring out a side to her that people don't often see.
Thanks.
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02/06/2004 09:01:35 PM · #2 |
Mind if I play around with one of these?
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02/06/2004 09:04:36 PM · #3 |
I like this one the best compositionally...
but your skin tones don't quite look right. Not having done any portraitures, I can't help out with these issues though...
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02/07/2004 03:01:04 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler: Mind if I play around with one of these? |
No problem at all. I'd be very interested to see what could be done with them.
Ron, I didn't necessarily want completely natural tones - certainly not on the first one anyway, but maybe the second two really need to look very natural. Thanks. |
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02/07/2004 03:39:01 AM · #5 |
I agree this one is the best compositionally...
I would have changed her color a little and NeatImaged a bit to get this...

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02/07/2004 03:45:25 AM · #6 |
Can you please tell how did you change the skin tone, you really done a great job
Message edited by author 2004-02-07 03:46:31. |
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02/07/2004 05:52:39 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by stdavidson: I would have changed her color a little and NeatImaged a bit to get this...
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Yup, that's definitely the one - exactly as intended in fact. I don't yet have NeatImage (on a Mac) so I'd have to work into it a lot to achieve such a smooth result, which I haven't had time to do. The colour adjustments for the skin are perfect. Nice job Steve, and please do post your colour tweaks. |
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02/07/2004 09:29:54 AM · #8 |
The skin tone problem here is likely because of two different types of light being used. The skin does have a yellowish hue in places.
I also like the second photo in this set. It makes a nice black and white :)
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02/07/2004 11:58:47 AM · #9 |
Can you explain in detail how you did a skintone and smothnes change stdavidson?
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02/07/2004 01:33:33 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler: The skin tone problem here is likely because of two different types of light being used. The skin does have a yellowish hue in places.
I also like the second photo in this set. It makes a nice black and white :) |
It was actually just one type of tungsten light - and yes it did look a bit yellow in places. The colour adjustments definitely improve this.
Any chance of seeing the mono version?
Can't wait for Mac version of NeatImage too.
Message edited by author 2004-02-07 13:33:50. |
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02/07/2004 02:23:49 PM · #11 |
THIS is my b/w toned version of the photo, but don't stop here. I would reshoot these and work with the light some more..
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02/07/2004 02:52:22 PM · #12 |
i took a shot at converting to BW as well
details in image description
i like the 1st photo quite a bit, even though its a bit blown out - seems to have the most emotion in it...
Message edited by author 2004-02-07 14:52:39.
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02/07/2004 03:01:52 PM · #13 |
2nd is definately the best.
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02/07/2004 05:45:20 PM · #14 |
Had a try at black & white as well, starting from stdavidson's neatimaged version. Two different versions depending on the look you are trying for:

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02/07/2004 05:51:12 PM · #15 |
Being a macro guy, I really like the third one. lol. But seriously, I like how the eye is isolated in that shot since the face has a high key look to it. Nice pics.
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02/07/2004 05:57:26 PM · #16 |
While I like the second shot and the improved color balance is much nicer, if the intent of the shoot was to bring out a side of the subject less often seen, then the first shot does what you wanted to do better than the second. It is a more striking graphic image and more removed from everyday life than the other two.
I'm new to this site so I couldn't figure out how to embed a shot, but below is my quick and dirty photoshop session to white out the backround which I found a compositional distraction, and I darkened up the face with difference in layers. I may be wrong, but I don't think so;)
//www.pbase.com/image/25845355 |
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02/07/2004 06:26:16 PM · #17 |
gotta say 'M' is my favourite of the 3. |
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02/07/2004 07:00:56 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by stdavidson: I agree this one is the best compositionally...
I would have changed her color a little and NeatImaged a bit to get this...
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I agree with John that two different types of lighting were probably used or the white balence was not set right. That is why applying color balence in Photoshop helped to improve it.
The color could be improved more, but I think the settings I used were:
Cyan-Red + 20
Magenta-Green - 10
Yellow-Blue + 25
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02/07/2004 07:10:58 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
I would have changed her color a little and NeatImaged a bit to get this...
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Neat image made a huge difference on this image...great job!
BTW, here's my stab at a B&W also using the neat imaged shot 
Message edited by author 2004-02-07 22:17:57. |
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02/07/2004 08:17:02 PM · #20 |
also a sepia version 
Message edited by author 2004-02-07 20:23:37. |
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02/07/2004 08:28:44 PM · #21 |
I'm no expert and learning more every thread I read in here, but I think the watch and bracelet detract from the overall beauty of the shot regardless of b/w, sepia or as shot.
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02/07/2004 09:58:41 PM · #22 |
Seriously, don't neat image the photos, you completely lose the feel of her 'self' and her body and the feel of her skin. I think these images are a great start and the eye shot has great detail and shows some cool creativity. The second photo could be cool but the cleavage isn't flattering, not sure why.
Message edited by author 2004-02-07 21:59:59.
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02/07/2004 10:05:02 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by TerryGee: also a sepia version |
Terry, your version rocks! beautiful job of conversion to sepia, you found just the right tone IMO.
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02/07/2004 10:10:32 PM · #24 |
i would have to agree...
Originally posted by GoldBerry: Seriously, don't neat image the photos, you completely lose the feel of her 'self' and her body and the feel of her skin. I think these images are a great start and the eye shot has great detail and shows some cool creativity. The second photo could be cool but the cleavage isn't flattering, not sure why.
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02/07/2004 10:21:26 PM · #25 |
My opinion, meager but mine nonetheless, the first and last are my faves. The first one is tops for me. Her eye just really grabs me and pulls me into the rest of the image. I also really like the colors of the third. The second is nice, but it's too "everyday" for my tastes if your going for something more daring and from the tone of the first shot, I'd say that might be your goal. Very cool shots. |
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