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08/29/2007 12:44:40 PM · #1 |
Which one is recommended? Reviews and article links welcome!
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08/29/2007 12:53:45 PM · #2 |
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08/29/2007 12:54:25 PM · #3 |
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08/29/2007 12:57:20 PM · #4 |
How fixed a fixed lens do you want ?
The Ricoh GRD is pretty cool.
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08/29/2007 12:58:06 PM · #5 |
Yes - sorry should have explained better. All of my camera gear was stolen early Monday morning. I truly love the 5D, but the drawback with it is the bulk and weight of shlepping it around. That has been difficult for me when traveling.
I have looked at reviews and keep coming back to the Panasonic Lumix and am looking at the CNet review of the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ50K right now.
I want a solid camera - nothing tiny as I want to FEEL it in my hands. I want manual controls - basically I want my 5D (minus a few things) in a superzoom.
Message edited by author 2007-08-29 12:58:35.
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08/29/2007 01:03:52 PM · #6 |
After the 5D ... you may just want to stick with the imag quality of an SLR. I say the Rebel with 28-135mm IS lens. It's reletively small, light and MUCH better than a point-n-shoot in terms of speed, DOF control and joy of using.
The Rebel with the 50mm 1.8 is smaller than some point-n-shoots. |
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08/29/2007 01:07:22 PM · #7 |
Not fixed lens, but may solve your size and weight issues:
//www.leica-camera.us/photography/m_system/m8/
DPReview: //www.dpreview.com/reviews/leicam8/
If you like shooting candids, you won't beat a rangefinder camera.
If you want cheaper and fixed lens P&S look at the D-Lux 3
//www.leica-camera.us/photography/compact_cameras/d-lux_3/
or the V-Lux 1
//www.leica-camera.us/photography/compact_cameras/v-lux_1/
Message edited by author 2007-08-29 14:00:54.
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08/29/2007 01:09:31 PM · #8 |
| With prices of the 30D dropping that might be an option. |
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08/29/2007 01:10:06 PM · #9 |
So sorry to hear about your 5D.
I agree with hopper, I would go crazy in about a month shooting with less than a good DSLR after having experienced the power of one. Any shutter lag would drive me bonkers right away.
I hope you find a solution that works well for you. It may be a good time to evaluate your desires and goals relative to digital photography, since you now have an open choice about equipment.
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08/29/2007 01:19:03 PM · #10 |
Have you considered an Olympus E-10 or E-20? They are fixed lens "SLR" - in quotes because even though they were advertised as SLR's some think that since they use a prism rather than a mirror they don't meet the standard. They are built like tanks and have a fast 2.0 lens - 35mm-140mm equivalent. They are silent shooters (no mirror slap), you can use the LCD for composing if needed and they have several nice features, like a built-in intervalometer for unattended time-lapse sessions. The biggest drawback, IMO is their relatively high noise level at higher ISO.
If you doubt what these cameras can do just check out Brad's profile. Sure, he has "graduated" to something else, but just check out what his top 9 scores were shot with!
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08/29/2007 01:25:44 PM · #11 |
Nikon CP8800VR
Nice Camera
Sony R1 or the F828 are both rather nice too
E10 and the E20 are both legend also
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08/29/2007 01:33:54 PM · #12 |
When I was comparing cameras in this range, I was considering the Canon S-3 (now S-5) and I the Fuji S9100 ... basically I went with the Canon line for the ability to use it one-handed, but the Fuji looks like the closest I've seen to a traditional old camera, with manual focus and zoom rings on the lens (hence the need for two hands), and they both use AA batteries. It does not have image stabilization though ... maybe that's been added to later models -- I haven't checked lately.
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08/29/2007 02:02:24 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
I would go crazy in about a month shooting with less than a good DSLR after having experienced the power of one. Any shutter lag would drive me bonkers right away.
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Believe it or not, there are other cameras, that have less lag than most dSLRs ;-)
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08/29/2007 02:14:12 PM · #14 |
I have the Canon G7 for when I don't feel like taking my DSLR.
Say what you want, but I find it to be a reasonable substitute for most purposes. It does have limitations, but it certainly makes up for them with its small size. |
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08/29/2007 03:10:26 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
I would go crazy in about a month shooting with less than a good DSLR after having experienced the power of one. Any shutter lag would drive me bonkers right away.
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Believe it or not, there are other cameras, that have less lag than most dSLRs ;-) |
The only ones like that would be rangefinders... they don't exactly fit in a point and shoot budget. A GRD in snap focus mode and manual exposure might come close to a DSLR, but most point and shoots are terrible.
So ya caught Leica fever now, huh? :p |
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08/29/2007 03:13:45 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by MadMan2k:
So ya caught Leica fever now, huh? :p |
Yeah, that M8 is looking quite tasty. FWIW, I'd choose it over the 5D if I were gonna spend any serious money anytime soon.
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08/29/2007 04:34:28 PM · #17 |
Thanks for all the suggestions - keep them coming!
I viewed the Canon G9 sample shots and while nice, there are none with bokeh - is it even possible to get such shots with a point & shoot?
IS would be nice and low noise is a must.
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08/29/2007 04:41:19 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by papagei:
Thanks for all the suggestions - keep them coming!
I viewed the Canon G9 sample shots and while nice, there are none with bokeh - is it even possible to get such shots with a point & shoot?
IS would be nice and low noise is a must. |
It's significantly harder to do shots with shallow depth of field with a typical fixed lens or PnS camera. People will post examples of where it is possible, but it is generally much harder and much less effective, due to the small sensor size.
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08/29/2007 04:44:54 PM · #19 |
i would be willing to do a trade, you could buy another 5d and ill give you my d50. yes i would be willing to sacrifice that for you, i know its hard to fathom, but i would be willing.
On a more serious note, i would advise sticking with a slr, after shooting with a 5d there is no way you could even look at pictures with a non dslr, a xt or a 30d would be advisable, just my take, hope this is helpful,
Ryand
eta: im sorry about your camera being stolen, that sucks really bad
Message edited by author 2007-08-29 16:52:33.
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08/29/2007 04:56:22 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
It's significantly harder to do shots with shallow depth of field with a typical fixed lens or PnS camera. People will post examples of where it is possible, but it is generally much harder and much less effective, due to the small sensor size. |
Took this the other day with my Canon S3:
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08/29/2007 04:57:36 PM · #21 |
You're all heart, dear :)
Still checking all the suggestions and the Leica V Lux1 looks promising. Any users here to offer a personal review? I'll check it at Steve's. I used to have the M5 black body - many, many years ago :)
Ingrid
Originally posted by ryand:
i would be willing to do a trade, you could buy another 5d and ill give you my d50. yes i would be willing to sacrifice that for you, i know its hard to fathom, but i would be willing.
On a more serious note, i would advise sticking with a slr, after shooting with a 5d there is no way you could even look at pictures with a non dslr, a xt or a 30d would be advisable, just my take, hope this is helpful,
Ryand |
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08/29/2007 04:58:07 PM · #22 |
the main thing that I found with P/S cameras is that even the nice ones, which are very good at fast, long lenses, never have enough in the small aperture end. (to be able to drag the shutter for waterfall effects for example)
Personally I like the Panasonic Lumix line, which also feature very nice Leica lenses.
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08/29/2007 04:59:08 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Gordon:
It's significantly harder to do shots with shallow depth of field with a typical fixed lens or PnS camera. People will post examples of where it is possible, but it is generally much harder and much less effective, due to the small sensor size. |
Took this the other day with my Canon S3:
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Yes. exactly.
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08/29/2007 05:35:14 PM · #24 |
I see that the Leica is the same as the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ50! It is something I'd like to try out.
Other than that, gee, I may have to go to the Dark Side - Nikon D200 has a nice review at CNet.
Ingrid
Originally posted by basssman7:
the main thing that I found with P/S cameras is that even the nice ones, which are very good at fast, long lenses, never have enough in the small aperture end. (to be able to drag the shutter for waterfall effects for example)
Personally I like the Panasonic Lumix line, which also feature very nice Leica lenses. |
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08/29/2007 05:54:24 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by papagei:
I see that the Leica is the same as the Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ50! It is something I'd like to try out. |
I have one of the older Lumix range of cameras and it is actually not too bad.
I'd get the Panasonic version, as the Leica re-badging seems to add about $100 for the logo.
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