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08/17/2007 05:22:53 PM · #51 |
I have built my own PCs for quite a few years. Now, I have my old PC stored and I am using a 17" widescreen laptop with Vista. I don't like all Vista offers, but after having to re-find my DVD-RW when Vista lost it, I am getting used to it. I have 2Gb RAM, 1440x900 graphics and it takes up so much less space.
Desktops are cheap, I can't build for the same price cos I always go for the best graphics, big RAM and DVI for my LCD screen.
Now, I have an 18.1 DVI screen sitting by my desk, a PC that still works well and a laptop that seems to meet my requirements. It is a 64bit, 17" widescreen with geForce graphics and good sound. DVD-RW Dual layer...5 in 1 cardreader. And, Vista OS. |
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08/17/2007 05:49:51 PM · #52 |
My old puty died and I always buy through a mate who builds and fixes computers for friends and as a hobby, I love my new system but its built to a price (Not cheap but not the best either).
Its an intel Duel Core E6600 2.4GH (Note the E6600 is superseeded now)
Recommended over the Quad due to cost and lack of applications supporting it.
2gb of RAM, I think 2gb is the minimum that you need these days.
Nvida 8600 Video card
250mb HDD but we added 2 of my old HDD's into the system totalling almost 500gb.
18x Pioneer DvD Duel Layer burner (Added) 18x LG DvD Duel Layer Burner in the box already.
Make sure you have a good power supply from the box it helps if you add stuff later.
Vista Home Premium 32bit, as i was told there are still some issues that need/ed to be sorted out with 64bit.
There are no FDD slots any more so if you have stuff on floppy (resume etc) Burn it to DvD or CD first.
Edited: because I was stupid ;P and caught being stupid which is worse.
Message edited by author 2007-08-17 19:00:34.
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08/17/2007 05:54:29 PM · #53 |
here is what you will need to look at:
1) how much faster (clock speed) is the dual core that you are considering, compared to the quadcore (a 2.4G Vs 2.8G will not buy you much)
2) whats the price diff.
3) I dont see photoshop using performing any specific task using 4 threads. But i am not sure what it does for batch processing multiple images. If photoshop uses multiple threads for this (and if u do a lot of batch processing) then it is surely worthwhile to get a quadcore.
4) if batch processing is not for you, then more RAM (around 4GB) might be better than more cores. when processing 16bit the memory footprint of an image (with layers) will be large.
My experience with CS2 on windows has not been good. in that CS2 seems to leak a lot of memory, especially when i use layers. what i mean is it does not seem to free memory correctly even after combining multiple layers. so with large number of processing steps OS swaps to disk due to lack of memory. so more RAM helps. |
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08/17/2007 05:57:20 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by Node:
2mb of RAM, I think 2mb is the minimum that you need these days.
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So 2 GB must be overkill!
I kow you meant GB, but I actually remember when I upgraded from 1 MB to 2 MB, and I thought I had more RAM than I would ever need!!
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08/17/2007 06:06:08 PM · #55 |
Great recent article about the pricing and funtionality of Mac vs. PCs. Read if you like.
//www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9023959
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08/17/2007 06:20:23 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by scarbrd: Originally posted by Node:
2mb of RAM, I think 2mb is the minimum that you need these days.
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So 2 GB must be overkill!
I kow you meant GB, but I actually remember when I upgraded from 1 MB to 2 MB, and I thought I had more RAM than I would ever need!!
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*sigh* This was the first memory upgrade I bought. There was a time 1k was a good entry level system and 16k was extravagant. |
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08/17/2007 07:04:44 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by Gordon: Originally posted by scarbrd: Originally posted by Node:
2mb of RAM, I think 2mb is the minimum that you need these days.
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So 2 GB must be overkill!
I kow you meant GB, but I actually remember when I upgraded from 1 MB to 2 MB, and I thought I had more RAM than I would ever need!!
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*sigh* This was the first memory upgrade I bought. There was a time 1k was a good entry level system and 16k was extravagant. |
Hahaha
I remember being so excited when I upgraded my "Commadore 64" tape drive to haveing a 5 1/4" FDD it was soooo fast and stored so much! Also the envy of my friends when I showed them my new 9 pin dot matrix printer. Ugg that does not seem so long ago either.
Message edited by author 2007-08-17 19:05:43.
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08/17/2007 07:10:26 PM · #58 |
I would contact the people at photoshop let them know the version of photoshop you are currently using, if you plan to update that version later and then make a decision. psart. hope this helps.... |
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08/17/2007 07:29:14 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by Node: Originally posted by Gordon: Originally posted by scarbrd: [quote=Node]
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*sigh* This was the first memory upgrade I bought. There was a time 1k was a good entry level system and 16k was extravagant. |
Hahaha
I remember being so excited when I upgraded my "Commadore 64" tape drive to haveing a 5 1/4" FDD it was soooo fast and stored so much! Also the envy of my friends when I showed them my new 9 pin dot matrix printer. Ugg that does not seem so long ago either. |
LOL, I remember that 9-pin matrix printer. Made by Epson, I bet. Mine was. My Apple II+ was a real wow with the 64K upgrade. And the Hayes MicroModem marched right along on the screen, printing words there faster than I could type!
Everyone has given me great information today on this question and I want you all to know I very much appreciate the input.
I went with the quad core and 4 Gigs of RAM so that I won't have to buy another computer for a Loooooong time. Especially since I seem to upgrade Ps as often as they issue the new versions. Oh, yes Dell was offering a TB hard drive, so I took that too.
:-))
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08/21/2007 05:28:00 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by scarbrd: And how many hours will it take you to build, test, install the OS, down load the updates and the most current drivers, etc?
And how much do you value your time? $10/hr, $50/hour?
Plus, no warrenty, no support, and usually no clue when something doesn't work.
I've built a few PCs in my time and for the life of me I can't understand the value in BYO systems these days. But then, I wouldn't buy a Dell in any case. | whatever pre-built system you buy, you're going to need to re-install the OS to get rid of all that crap they bundle with it..
and yes Dell do own Alienware now.. |
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08/21/2007 05:31:07 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by Bobster: Originally posted by scarbrd: And how many hours will it take you to build, test, install the OS, down load the updates and the most current drivers, etc?
And how much do you value your time? $10/hr, $50/hour?
Plus, no warrenty, no support, and usually no clue when something doesn't work.
I've built a few PCs in my time and for the life of me I can't understand the value in BYO systems these days. But then, I wouldn't buy a Dell in any case. |
whatever pre-built system you buy, you're going to need to re-install the OS to get rid of all that crap they bundle with it..
and yes Dell do own Alienware now.. |
Yet another good reason on a long list of good reasons to not buy a Windows machine. |
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08/21/2007 07:28:43 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by scarbrd: Originally posted by Bobster: Originally posted by scarbrd: And how many hours will it take you to build, test, install the OS, down load the updates and the most current drivers, etc?
And how much do you value your time? $10/hr, $50/hour?
Plus, no warrenty, no support, and usually no clue when something doesn't work.
I've built a few PCs in my time and for the life of me I can't understand the value in BYO systems these days. But then, I wouldn't buy a Dell in any case. |
whatever pre-built system you buy, you're going to need to re-install the OS to get rid of all that crap they bundle with it..
and yes Dell do own Alienware now.. |
Yet another good reason on a long list of good reasons to not buy a Windows machine. |
OMG get over it.
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