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07/18/2007 02:52:30 AM · #1 |
Dreams:
Photograph a dream you've had.
Nightmare:
Photograph your worst nightmare.
I've entered the Dreams challenge with this picture: My Submission
Out of 12 comments made on the photo, 10 of them told me it should be in the nightmares challenge. Kudos to the other two that didn't.
Now... the nightmare challenge specifically says "your worst nightmare". Being attacked by a leopard is not my worst nightmare - it was a dream. But if it was my worst nightmare, it would've been put in the respective challenge on purpose.
It makes me sad that people don't think before they comment. I used to be an avid participant and member of dpchallenge, but with results like this, it kinda reiterates why I've been away for so long. How can one learn anything with a comment like "would be better in the nightmare challenge" I mean, how does the nightmare challenge differ in terms of technical aspects, subject matter etc.??
I'm not singling out anyone or pointing fingers, and im not looking for any sympathy, but please - I used to come to Dpchallenge to learn something and grow as a photographer in a community rich with highly creative and inspiring people. For the sake of that alone I feel that critting photo's should at the very least contain a bit of thinking behind it...
If there's anyone out there that's got a bit of time and feels they can comment on the picture for what it is, i'd really appreciate it. I dont think it's a brilliant picture that deserves ribbon, but there's something about it that i like and I want to see if someone else sees it too.
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07/18/2007 03:02:33 AM · #2 |
Yeah, that sucks man. It happened to me when I entered something white in the "Black" challenge and again when I entered a paperclip in the "Wildlife" challenge. Friggin voters.
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07/18/2007 05:59:36 AM · #3 |
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07/18/2007 06:10:31 AM · #4 |
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07/18/2007 06:13:26 AM · #5 |
| be thankful the commenters actually suggested the nightmare challenge, because a tiger chewing on wire dont even feel like a nightmare to me :P |
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07/18/2007 06:13:28 AM · #6 |
| Looking at your picture, which I liked, I think most people weren't being nasty or such, I think that they honestly thought you put it in the wrong challenge. For most of us what you took a photo of would be a nightmare not a dream. Dont worry about it. Keep on clickin'. |
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07/18/2007 06:20:00 AM · #7 |
I'm sorry but in this case I believe you were the one overanalysing, not the voters.
The basic idea is that a dream would be a good thing and a nightmare would be a bad thing. The fact that it's not your "worst" nightmare doesn't make it a dream in the spirit of the challenge.
Even more so with your title. If it was something like "trip to the zoo" or something implying you wanted to be seeing this guy, then it would make sense as a dream.
Now for the rest. Yes, I believe people should say something else along with DNMC comments. I try my best to. Something like "this doesn't work for the challenge but as a photo...blah blah blah", and this is mostly because I know most people won't do this once they feel the photos doens't meet the challenge.
But tis DPC. I've gotten comments with just the number of the vote, ones that have said "no" "ok?", etc. And yea, it sucks. |
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07/18/2007 07:06:34 AM · #8 |
I didn't vote on either challenge. But I agree with both Monica's and Monique's analysis of the situation.
Given the juxtaposition of two challenges at once (both Dreams and Nightmares), I fully expected to see "light and fluffy" happy pictures in dreams and "dark and gloomy" scary pictures in nightmares. As such, I would have found your image (and your title) to be out of place in dreams.
So if you truly came to DPC to "learn and grow", then the one lesson to take away from this is that if you're entering your image hoping to score well, then it's best to give the voters what they expect. But if you're entering the image for your own pleasure (I do that a lot!), then it's best to just put on full body armor and take what they give you. (i.e. and in either case, learn and grow in the process)
Just remember, everybody has an opinion. Both the photographer, and the viewer. Both are equally valid, though generally only one's feelings tend to get hurt if the other doesn't agree.
Message edited by author 2007-07-18 08:53:08.
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07/18/2007 07:12:29 AM · #9 |
there are "dpc-friendly" images and those that make people wanna comment the first thing that hit the brain without thinking. You are going to get criticized a bit - even for this very question - "how dar you question the voters in general" - simply because it happens to us all.
I would say the "average" dpc voter doesn't give the benifit of the doubt. I think it has something to do with the fact that they are looking at hundreds of images and can't give much time to each one. I know ho wit feels to have a misunderstood photo and my wife who just joined wil soon feel the joy of some people thinking she did something to her image when in actuallity it was part of the photo to begin with.
just submit and understand that this community is pretty predictable sometimes and will isn't as forgiving as we would hope - "hey look, on the front page -another green hill with a sky background and someone "floating" with balloons - who would have thought!?" â€Â¦hmmm ... and some guy named scalvert ;P |
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