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01/07/2004 10:14:23 PM · #1
mystery (to me) raptor on left

This odd couple meets once or twice a week to share this space. I'm good on the heron ID, but am having trouble with the raptor. Admittedly the photo isn't that great, but at over 100 yds without the TCON 17 I'm saving for, it's about the best I could do. Any ID (or other) suggestions gratefully received. Louise
01/07/2004 10:20:54 PM · #2
Looks like a Red-Tailed Hawk to me.
01/07/2004 10:33:21 PM · #3
I thought that at first but am confused with the banded tail and lighter head. Maybe ferriginous hawk? I'm combing sites on google for a similar-looking photo.

Originally posted by justine:

Looks like a Red-Tailed Hawk to me.

01/07/2004 10:41:52 PM · #4
Might be a Red-shouldered Hawk - Info on this hawk
01/07/2004 10:48:36 PM · #5
I agree that it's probably a red-shouldered hawk.

COMMON NAME: Red-shouldered Hawk
SCIENTIFIC NAME: Buteo lineatus
IDENTIFYING CHARACTERISTICS:
Slightly smaller than the red-tailed hawk, red-shouldered hawks are dark above with rufous streaking. Reddish patchs on the wrist and upper back give the appearance of red shoulders. The underside is light with rufous barring on breast and belly. The tail is dark brown with four or five white bands and a white tip. The immature bird has less coloration at the shoulders and a tail that is indistinctly barred.
RANGE:
Found in the eastern half of North America, generally south of the Great Lakes, and east of central Minnesota. They are found as far south as Florida and northeastern Mexico. A separate population is found along the humid Pacific coast.
HABITAT:
Red-shouldered hawks are usualy found along river valleys and moist lowland woods. They compete with red-tailed hawks for nesting sites, and this may explain some of their distribution pattern, as they may be forced into closed canopy woods that the red-tailed hawk does not use.
01/07/2004 11:13:25 PM · #6
Thanks for your help! I think the photo might just be too crappy to see enough detail for a positive ID. I hope they're still meeting on the snag by the time I can get a teleconverter!
01/07/2004 11:15:49 PM · #7
I don't think it's a red-shouldered hawk...

Red Shouldered Hawk

The red shouldered hawk is not really that red.... My photo is not a great example, but it does show you what the markings on a mature adult looks like...

Your photo very well could be a golden eagle. The sunlight on the bird may be illuminating it in such a way that the color is not true to the bird.
01/07/2004 11:19:36 PM · #8
You may want to forward the photo to someone at the North Carolina Raptor Center and ask for help identifying the bird. They may be able to help you... if you ask, be sure to tell them where you saw the bird... what area of the country... and when you took the shot...
01/07/2004 11:32:30 PM · #9
Thanks, John, I'm going to do that. It's a pretty big bird when you consider how large the heron is as comparison. I'm going to talk to the folks at Wildlife Images near here, too. Crocodile Hunter's wife's family runs that place and they deal with rehabilitating local raptors. Thanks again for the help, folks!

Originally posted by jmsetzler:

You may want to forward the photo to someone at the North Carolina Raptor Center and ask for help identifying the bird. They may be able to help you... if you ask, be sure to tell them where you saw the bird... what area of the country... and when you took the shot...

01/08/2004 01:58:57 PM · #10
Although CBC winter maps would indicate a scarcity of the Red-shouldered Hawk in this part of the country, a fellow from Wildlife Images has said he is 80% sure that's what's in the photo. So, you guys are pretty sharp! Thanks for your help, Louise

CBC (?) map
01/08/2004 02:37:08 PM · #11
If this was So. Oregon, I agree with Red-shouldered "western race". The tail is also a key here, it appears to be banded black and white. Ferruginous is whiter overall (in most)and has whitish tail with reddisg band on tip. Sometimes immature Cooper's hawks can be this reddish, but the banding in the tail is less obvious. Van
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