Problems with Vista (CD/DVD Not Recognised)

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

05/31/2007 08:04:39 PM · #1

Up until yesterday I've been using Windows Vista RC1, kinda like the beta, however it expired today. Before it expired, I downloaded and installed Vista Ultimate 30 day trial in desperation, because I have a ton of uni coursework due in for Monday (bad timing!) and couldn't afford to have no OS! Its fine for now, everything I desperately need is working, but there is one problem looming on the horizon.

Vista has decided not to detect my DVD drive. It worked in RC1 but not in this new version. The only drives that show up are my floppy drive and card reader slots. It doesn't even show up in Device Manager as not working. There is just nothing there. There is a thing in Device Manager under "Other Devices" called RAID Controller which has an error sign, but I don't know what that is.

Here are things I've tried in order to get it working:

Installing/Searching for drivers, apparently it fails to load them
Uninstalling all the programs I've installed
Editing the registry as recommended by people on other message boards I've found through google
Downloading a registry fix
Scanning my PC for outdated drivers (didn't even detect the drive to check it)
Installing iTunes and uninstalling it (weird but I was getting desperate)
Checked BIOS, CD Drive is there
Changed boot order

I'm really stuck.

After my 30 days, then what? I can't exactly install anything without a DVD drive? I have an old version of XP that came with the computer, but I didnt install that because the RC1 trial told me to install "Any version of Windows Vista" and I couldn't afford to screw everything up by trying XP due to my deadline. And now I can't install it because its on a CD!

Arrrggh :/

Message edited by author 2007-05-31 20:13:44.

TechnoShroom

Canon EOS-30D

05/31/2007 08:53:58 PM · #2

NVM.. didn't read that you already did this.

Message edited by author 2007-05-31 20:54:55.

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

05/31/2007 08:57:07 PM · #3

If it is the raid controller you may need a vista driver for it. Try to update driver in device manager via the Internet. Just a thought.

Edit: Oh but the CD is not raid never mind... You need

awpollard he will know what to do.

Message edited by author 2007-05-31 20:59:30.

05/31/2007 09:04:46 PM · #4

Are you saying that in 30 days (or less) you will need a new version of windows???

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

05/31/2007 09:06:17 PM · #5

CD is an ATAPI device and should just work no matter what. Could the drive have died by a weird coincidence? Do you have another CD drive you can test the theory with?

05/31/2007 09:09:20 PM · #6

Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

CD is an ATAPI device and should just work no matter what. Could the drive have died by a weird coincidence? Do you have another CD drive you can test the theory with?

Isn't the reason that ATAPI devices work is because windows already has a basic driver for them? (user friendly).

I think it's a driver problem. Also another idea is that you borrow a friends computer and copy an OS cd to a thumb drive then boot from USB. We did it all the time at my old job. Then again we were ghosting machines but still booting from USB.

Pentax SMC DA 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR

05/31/2007 09:10:35 PM · #7

What kind of computer? What model? What DVD-ROM do you have? did it come with the machine or did you install it? If you installed it what model and brand? If not still what model and brand is it?

drz01

Pentax K50

05/31/2007 09:14:35 PM · #8

You can still install just set your machine to boot from your DVD drive.Make shure that your bios is seeing your DVD drive and if it is boot from there.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

05/31/2007 09:17:26 PM · #9

Originally posted by Lowcivicman99:

Isn't the reason that ATAPI devices work is because windows already has a basic driver for them? (user friendly).

No. You can boot from CD. Think about it. If you can boot from it, it does not need a driver.

thegrandwazoo

Nikon D750

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

05/31/2007 09:18:36 PM · #10

Edit: Kirbic.

Message edited by author 2007-05-31 21:19:12.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

05/31/2007 09:22:08 PM · #11

Since the RAID controller is apparently not recognized, I'm wondering if...
- The BIOS is configured to enable RAID support
- The RAID configuration interferes with recognition of a portion of the IDE devices
Try disabling RAID support in BIOS.

I recently had this type of problem. My system was shut down for a week or so, and my BIOS battery died. When I rebooted, the system tried to start with the RAID controller enabled, and it gave me all sorts of strange behavior. XP would boot, but I could not log in to my Administrator account. Talk about scary.

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

05/31/2007 09:23:24 PM · #12

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by Lowcivicman99:
Isn't the reason that ATAPI devices work is because windows already has a basic driver for them? (user friendly).

No. You can boot from CD. Think about it. If you can boot from it, it does not need a driver.

yeah that's right, WTF was I thinking??? Um HELLO... Sorry to misunderstand, I would have caught myself about 20 minutes from now. Saying What was that all about.. hahahaha

Sorry you both are right it should boot from CD no matter what.

awpollard

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

05/31/2007 09:31:23 PM · #13

We got the specs yet? (whispers to himself I bet it is a sony DVD-RW)

05/31/2007 09:33:51 PM · #14

Processor:
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz

Memory:
1024MB RAM

Video Card:
NVIDIA GeForce 6600

Sound Card:
C-Media Rear Panel Audio

I'm not sure about the CD/DVD drive type, its an internal one and came with the computer. If I were to put the CD drive as primary in the boot order and put my Windows XP CD in it would install then? Has anyone tried installing XP over Vista? I guess it would format my drive :/

05/31/2007 09:36:07 PM · #15

If I try to install drivers for the RAID thingy which doesn't work, and choose "select driver from a list" the CD/DVD option says Mitsumi CD-Rom drive. That name rings a bell, but I dunno if thats mine, cos mine is a DVD drive not a CD-Rom drive.

05/31/2007 09:37:42 PM · #16

Originally posted by kirbic:

I have 2 hard drives, so would disabling RAID mean I lose access to one? The only experience I have with raid was on my old PC where I had 2 200gb drives RAIDed as 1 400gb drive. One corrupted and I lost both. Needless to say, I've tried to avoid RAID-related things since then.

05/31/2007 09:45:10 PM · #17

I have heard that you can't install XP over Vista but I don't know about it yet. I am looking for information on that. About the RAID as far as I know YES you will lose. RAID acts as a mirror and if you remove one side you lose everything.

For instance a 10M file will store 5M on one side and 5M on the other, then grab both when asked.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

05/31/2007 09:46:29 PM · #18

Since "the incident" I have them as 2 separate drives, not a whole one.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

05/31/2007 09:49:08 PM · #19

Originally posted by Konador:

Since "the incident" I have them as 2 separate drives, not a whole one.

If you are running your drives in a RAID configuration, then of course don't disable it... but if you were, it probably wouldn't boot with the RAID controller improperly supported.

Pentax SMC DA 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR

05/31/2007 09:52:01 PM · #20

Originally posted by kirbic:

If you are running your drives in a RAID configuration, then of course don't disable it... but if you were, it probably wouldn't boot with the RAID controller improperly supported.

But on install it askes for a RAID disk to install the drivers. So he should be okay with the reboot (granted he can find the floppy)

Message edited by author 2007-05-31 21:52:44.

drz01

Pentax K50

05/31/2007 09:55:46 PM · #21

Yes you can install xp but you would have to reformaat.

Originally posted by Konador:

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

05/31/2007 09:57:59 PM · #22

Originally posted by drz01:

Yes you can install xp but you would have to reformaat.

Looks like I'm gonna have to spend the next 30 days backing stuff up then... Oh yeh, I can't burn DVDs :(

awpollard

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

05/31/2007 10:00:11 PM · #23

Did you start with Vista Beta 2 and upgrade to RC2?

and/or when you put the RTM Trial version of Vista on did it have you go through the upgrade adviser and tell you to remove any incompatible CD/DVD burning software (I think mine told me to remove Nero 6 before proceding).

This KB: has helped many with similar probs //support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;314060&x=12&y=13#appliesto

ED: Is says XP but one of the MS Vista/Optical drive developers pointed me to it.

...Still doing a bit of looking

Message edited by author 2007-05-31 22:02:53.

05/31/2007 10:01:02 PM · #24

Originally posted by Konador:

Originally posted by drz01:
Yes you can install xp but you would have to reformaat.

Looks like I'm gonna have to spend the next 30 days backing stuff up then... Oh yeh, I can't burn DVDs :(

I do not trust this answer.

When installing XP over Vista RC1 on boot up you will get "Error loading Operating System"