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05/31/2007 03:14:58 PM · #51 |
| You all should know I'm crazy...I not only believe in the fork but I believe in the spork as well. |
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05/31/2007 03:16:23 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by litlbopeep:
I believe in the spork as well. |
How else would the little baby forks be delivered? |
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05/31/2007 03:35:24 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by formerlee:
Perhaps I misunderstood this challenge, I thought it was what you believe in? Not churches, christianity or monestaries. Many religions do not use churches and to vote them low because they don't seem to meet the criteria for a place of worship is showing a serious lack of knowledge and understanding of what religion really is. It also shows complete disregard for non-christian beliefs. |
I would agree 100%, but I thought it was the church pictures getting butchered in the voting? |
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05/31/2007 03:40:18 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I'd like to gently point out that the challenge TOPIC is "Religion" and the challenge DESCRIPTION is "What do you believe in?"
I don't think you can separate one from the other here; I don't think this is a challenge where you can say "I believe in forks" and expect to get a free pass, because forks are not a religion, they aren't even remotely religious. I don't think this challenge is anywhere NEAR as conceptual as some people seem to think it is. So I'm not at all surprised to see quite a few DNMC claims springing up.
But what do I know?
R. |
totally agree with you ... forks aren't even spiritual ... |
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05/31/2007 03:42:57 PM · #55 |
| Mine is not a church and it's getting butchered. Why? I dunno. No comments. |
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05/31/2007 03:47:27 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by pamelasue:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I'd like to gently point out that the challenge TOPIC is "Religion" and the challenge DESCRIPTION is "What do you believe in?"
I don't think you can separate one from the other here[...] |
totally agree with you ... forks aren't even spiritual ... |
Spirituality and religion are two distinct things... maybe you missed my post earlier but have a look at the definition of religion please:
religion noun 1 a belief in, or the worship of, a god or gods. 2 a particular system of belief or worship, such as Christianity or Judaism. 3 colloq anything to which one is totally devoted and which rules one's life ⢠mountaineering is his religion. 4 the monastic way of life.
ETYMOLOGY: 12c: French, from Latin religio bond or obligation, etc, from ligare to bind.
Now tell me that a representation of something which rules someone's life which is not christianity, islam, hindu or whatever other "registered" religion you want to attach to the word religion is not applicable in what (contrary to what Bear_Music wants to imply) is truly a conceptual challenge when you really get down to the pedantic details of analysing what the title means...
ETA - and the fork reference was probably just a hyperbole
Message edited by author 2007-05-31 15:50:57. |
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05/31/2007 03:49:40 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by pamelasue:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I'd like to gently point out that the challenge TOPIC is "Religion" and the challenge DESCRIPTION is "What do you believe in?"
I don't think you can separate one from the other here; I don't think this is a challenge where you can say "I believe in forks" and expect to get a free pass, because forks are not a religion, they aren't even remotely religious. I don't think this challenge is anywhere NEAR as conceptual as some people seem to think it is. So I'm not at all surprised to see quite a few DNMC claims springing up.
But what do I know?
R. |
totally agree with you ... forks aren't even spiritual ... |
It's all about different interpretations. Some people have differnt takes on religion and what they believe in. So, as my grandma would say, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree and focus on the main point here THE PHOTO!
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05/31/2007 03:49:54 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
I agree. |
But being overly narrow minded doesn't mean that the other was really DNMC.
If I took a rubber ducky picture or something completely off-base, then that would be DNMC. It's your vote, but I still disagree with that line of thinking, so be it.
If It was a holy places challenge, and I'd taken a picture of a religious artifact or representation, that might be DNMC, because Holy Places does not encompass all of religion. All of religion, however, does encompass the holy places that they inspire. See? |
Religion Details: What do you believe in?
sorry,perhaps my english is very bad but in a week I think that I can translate with a good approximation 5 words. what do you believe in? a car? a building? It's true that a church can inspire religious sentiment but don't meet the description of the challenge. in fact one simple shot of one church don't descrive a sentiment or a sensation. |
Ah yes, but I believe that religion is more about the place, the traditions, practices, and all that crap. That's actually the technical definition of it.
What you described for me is faith, which is to me DNMC, because Faith encompases religion because it inspired it, while religion does not necessarily encompass faith.
Do you get me now? |
over-quoting is sacreligious... ;-)
Message edited by author 2007-05-31 16:14:44. |
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05/31/2007 04:01:04 PM · #59 |
Just because someone took a picture of a church does not mean that they are saying, âHereâs a church it represents religionâ. People have to stop being narrow-minded. The challenge topic is Religion and the description is âwhat do you believe in?â Lets say some takes a picture of a church and they believe that going to church is a fundamental element of their religion. Wouldnât it be safe to say when they took the picture of the church they are telling you they believe in going to church to embrace/practice their religion and it's a part of what they believe in? So I feel a picture of a church clearly meats the challenge.
Why are we not seeing picture of people worshiping inside a church? Mostly due to respect for the church and privacy of the members, even though it can be done. I donât find taking my camera to church, when I should be worshiping, to take a picture for the purpose of a challenge to be a good example of religion. I find it to show that I placed the challenge above my beliefs during that time and that would be a DNMC!
Just my 2 ¢ worth
Message edited by author 2007-05-31 16:03:56. |
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05/31/2007 04:17:09 PM · #60 |
I "believe in" Peace, Love and Understanding...
But this image would have gotten slaughtered...or am I wrong? |
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05/31/2007 04:17:45 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by tooohip:
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
I agree. |
But being overly narrow minded doesn't mean that the other was really DNMC.
If I took a rubber ducky picture or something completely off-base, then that would be DNMC. It's your vote, but I still disagree with that line of thinking, so be it.
If It was a holy places challenge, and I'd taken a picture of a religious artifact or representation, that might be DNMC, because Holy Places does not encompass all of religion. All of religion, however, does encompass the holy places that they inspire. See? |
Religion Details: What do you believe in?
sorry,perhaps my english is very bad but in a week I think that I can translate with a good approximation 5 words. what do you believe in? a car? a building? It's true that a church can inspire religious sentiment but don't meet the description of the challenge. in fact one simple shot of one church don't descrive a sentiment or a sensation. |
Ah yes, but I believe that religion is more about the place, the traditions, practices, and all that crap. That's actually the technical definition of it.
What you described for me is faith, which is to me DNMC, because Faith encompases religion because it inspired it, while religion does not necessarily encompass faith.
Do you get me now? |
over-quoting is sacreligious... ;-) |
a blue ribbon to toochip because meet the challenge :D |
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05/31/2007 04:20:14 PM · #62 |
For those who think that a church is DNMC, would a baseball stadium be DNMC for you in a sports challenge? It's just a building, and is not a sport.
This is crazy.
[disclaimer: i don't have an entry in this challenge]
[edit: limit to one example]
Message edited by author 2007-05-31 16:28:36. |
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05/31/2007 04:20:55 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by pawdrix:
I "believe in" Peace, Love and Understanding...
But this image would have gotten slaughtered...or am I wrong? |
You're probably right. Though, I would have voted it on the high side because 1) it's a good picture, 2) it stands out from the rest. |
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05/31/2007 04:21:57 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by hipychik:
Mine is not a church and it's getting butchered. Why? I dunno. No comments. |
Dunno, which picture is yours? |
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05/31/2007 04:55:18 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by ragamuffingirl:
Originally posted by hipychik:
Mine is not a church and it's getting butchered. Why? I dunno. No comments. |
Dunno, which picture is yours? |
Just leave a comment on all of them. :) |
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05/31/2007 05:28:09 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by tooohip:
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
I agree. |
But being overly narrow minded doesn't mean that the other was really DNMC.
If I took a rubber ducky picture or something completely off-base, then that would be DNMC. It's your vote, but I still disagree with that line of thinking, so be it.
If It was a holy places challenge, and I'd taken a picture of a religious artifact or representation, that might be DNMC, because Holy Places does not encompass all of religion. All of religion, however, does encompass the holy places that they inspire. See? |
Religion Details: What do you believe in?
sorry,perhaps my english is very bad but in a week I think that I can translate with a good approximation 5 words. what do you believe in? a car? a building? It's true that a church can inspire religious sentiment but don't meet the description of the challenge. in fact one simple shot of one church don't descrive a sentiment or a sensation. |
Ah yes, but I believe that religion is more about the place, the traditions, practices, and all that crap. That's actually the technical definition of it.
What you described for me is faith, which is to me DNMC, because Faith encompases religion because it inspired it, while religion does not necessarily encompass faith.
Do you get me now? |
over-quoting is sacreligious... ;-) |
a blue ribbon to toochip because meet the challenge :D |
I'm toohip's heathen-boy. :P |
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05/31/2007 06:49:47 PM · #67 |
this was my holy places entry. and it bombed...
the idea with any photograph isn't to win a challenge, it's to take a good one, and make anyone that views it think. on top of that - it doesn't matter what it makes the viewer think, just that they were provoked to by the photo.
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05/31/2007 06:51:29 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by tooohip:
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Rino63:
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by Rooster:
Yeah, it's wierd, Not sure if its the heat of the competition with the DPL or not, but folks sure seem to want to DNMC a lot. Been hearing it A LOT around the forums. What's up with that? Can a voter really take the liberty to do that within the voting rules? Shouldnt there be a more, somewhat, complex way of reporting a DNMC instead of just voting it a 1? Seesm this way folks would be less inclined to use it as an excuse to vote low, no? |
Not meeting challenge isn't against the rules but rather against the spirit of the site, so voting low is the only recourse we have. |
I agree. |
But being overly narrow minded doesn't mean that the other was really DNMC.
If I took a rubber ducky picture or something completely off-base, then that would be DNMC. It's your vote, but I still disagree with that line of thinking, so be it.
If It was a holy places challenge, and I'd taken a picture of a religious artifact or representation, that might be DNMC, because Holy Places does not encompass all of religion. All of religion, however, does encompass the holy places that they inspire. See? |
Religion Details: What do you believe in?
sorry,perhaps my english is very bad but in a week I think that I can translate with a good approximation 5 words. what do you believe in? a car? a building? It's true that a church can inspire religious sentiment but don't meet the description of the challenge. in fact one simple shot of one church don't descrive a sentiment or a sensation. |
Ah yes, but I believe that religion is more about the place, the traditions, practices, and all that crap. That's actually the technical definition of it.
What you described for me is faith, which is to me DNMC, because Faith encompases religion because it inspired it, while religion does not necessarily encompass faith.
Do you get me now? |
over-quoting is sacreligious... ;-) |
a blue ribbon to toochip because meet the challenge :D |
I'm toohip's heathen-boy. :P |
LOL! |
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05/31/2007 06:56:20 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by soup:
this was my holy places entry. and it bombed...
the idea with any photograph isn't to win a challenge, it's to take a good one, and make anyone that views it think. on top of that - it doesn't matter what it makes the viewer think, just that they were provoked to by the photo. |
Scalvert's entry in holy places is probably a great example of that. Although I'm still amazed he was that successful getting his into the top ten with all the DNMC voters out there. |
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05/31/2007 07:07:22 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by litlbopeep:
..... So, as my grandma would say, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree and focus on the main point here THE PHOTO! |
Now that's a novel idea...THE PHOTO. So a voters interpretations are not the same as mine....whoopdy doo. That is the spice of life. The bottom line is the photograph. DPC = Digital Photography Challenge. Nuff said. |
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05/31/2007 07:24:00 PM · #71 |
| Didn't somebody just win a National Geographic photo contest with a photo that was masacred in a challenege? |
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05/31/2007 07:54:08 PM · #72 |
maybe - but that doesn't change the way it works around here. so there is no point in complaining...
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05/31/2007 08:41:39 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Scalvert's entry in holy places is probably a great example of that. Although I'm still amazed he was that successful getting his into the top ten with all the DNMC voters out there. |
You and me both... especially since I shot it in a neighbor's livingroom. :-O |
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05/31/2007 09:47:45 PM · #74 |
I think among the sometime stretching reasons to DNMC these days, for this particular challenge it seems that some of it is just plain ignorance. I dont mean this in a negatively way but in the sense that folks' exposure to things seem very western-centric and themes beyond this seem to get lost in translation. Not understanding or not being exposed to other non-western tihngs does not mean a DNMC. I think we should all consider this before we dive into the DNMC pool of reacting.
Just my 2 cents.
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05/31/2007 09:52:03 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by Rooster:
I think among the sometime stretching reasons to DNMC these days, for this particular challenge it seems that some of it is just plain ignorance. I dont mean this in a negatively way but in the sense that folks' exposure to things seem very western-centric and themes beyond this seem to get lost in translation. Not understanding or not being exposed to other non-western tihngs does not mean a DNMC. I think we should all consider this before we dive into the DNMC pool of reacting.
Just my 2 cents. |
And well spent! |
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