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05/24/2007 02:10:00 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Beautifully put, but not even close to how it feels...
Primal... yeah, thats a good choice of word. and when the light returns, you almost hear a massive sigh of relief from the crowd..
primal.. yeah, I like it. |
And here I am getting all pumped up for something that's not even happening for 10 years, sheesh.
Doc, join us in the midwest. We'll have a blast. |
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05/24/2007 02:15:49 PM · #27 |
Here's yours doc:
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I have a friend to went up to Manitoba to see that one. My best eclipse was March of 1970 (I was 8). My second grade teacher took us out to see it in Maryland. We were about 150 miles from the path, so we saw a very deeply eclipsed sun through pieces of solar filter provided by another science teacher. It made a deep impression on me. |
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05/24/2007 02:20:36 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
You know, I was really pretty excited about it (and still am), but I don't know if it's quite the photography event that people may hope. |
Look at the total eclipse for 1970 on that map. I was in Eastern North Carolina for that one. There will be *MANY* things to photograph. The sun will be the hardest. There were waves of shadows running on the ground. VERY WEIRD. It freaked some of the older people out. The chickens went to roost and when the sun popped back out they were crowing. The temperature dropped at least 20 degrees F. We had the shadow box projectors and with a proper filter images from these should be fairly interesting. Planning will be needed for totality images, as it only lasts for a few minutes in the center of the path. As for sunset photos, most of us will be seeing the event with the sun fairly high in the sky. I hope I live long enough to see this one. But..... The world is scheduled to end on my birthday in 2012. Oh well.
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05/24/2007 02:25:00 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by DowseDesigns:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Wow, on my wedding day, that's AWESOME! :-) |
Does Cindi know? |
She does now :-D
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05/24/2007 02:26:22 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by DowseDesigns:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Wow, on my wedding day, that's AWESOME! :-) |
Does Cindi know? |
She does now :-D |
Come to Charleston for the big event and I'll shoot if for ya!!!
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05/24/2007 03:00:14 PM · #31 |
Solar eclipses are cyclic. The one in 2017 is the next in the cycle from the one that occured on February 26, 1979 that centered over Goldendale, Washington. I remember that one because I photographed it.
Like strangehost said, it is an experience like no other and a VERY RARE photographic opportunity. It was so wierd to experience when I saw one that I no longer question ancient cultures that recoiled in fear and thought them signs from the gods and I understood the physics what was happening when I was there.
The most unexpected aspect will be the visibility of solar prominences that appear as noticeable red protrusions. The f/stop brightness difference between them and the sun itself is so great that they are impossible to see this way even with the most sophisticated equipment in existence today except during an eclipse, and then they are easy to see even with the naked eye. That blew me away. The corona that we've all seen in pictures did not surprise me at all.
There are plenty of opportunities for landscape photography during totality that I've experienced but never seen captured. This eclipse will likely bring us the greatest amount of landscape photography associated with solar eclipses that the world has ever seen.
Some of the things you will see, or perhaps photograph yourself, is the twilight effect of the sky during totality. It really isn't that dark and there is a noticable dark band in the sky showing the shadow of the moon. On either side of that band the sky is nearly normal. The best landscape photographs will be those that contain normally great landscapes scenes but now captured during totality. The Columbia River Gorge in Oregon with its incredible vistas is in the path of totality, for example. That is a once in a lifetime photographic opportunity.
There are two other traditional solar eclipse effects suitable for landscape photography to look for. One is called the "diamond ring effect". That lasts for a few seconds just before and after totality. At the time the sun looks like the most brilliant diamond ring you ever saw and it is stuck up in the sky. The other effect is approaching light and dark fraunhoffer banding that you see on the ground just before totality. It is hard to capture and requires a fast shutter speed. That is seen from the opposite direction to the sun and is a unique lighting effect that occurs as the moon's shadow approaches your location just before totality arrives.
A solar eclipse is an awesome event that cannot be described, it can only be experienced.
Don't waste all 2.5 minutes of it taking pictures.
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05/24/2007 03:03:44 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
No, I totally hear you guys. I'm definitely going to search one out for the experience. We had the eclipse here in Washington in 1979 (or was it '76?), but I didn't get to experience it being only 8 and having it cloudy anyway.
I just didn't want to lose the experience because I'm fiddling with my camera and the proper exposure for a picture which looks similar to two million other total eclipse photos being taken. |
It was 79, I was 13 and it was so awesome. I didn't do photography then so there was no fiddling with cameras, just a little girl in awe of the way of the Universe. Wow my son will get to see this next one at age 17. He already wants to do photography so maybe by then we'll be able to share the shutter time so we not only get to experience it but capture it too. Hope it isn't a cloudy day. |
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05/24/2007 03:23:54 PM · #33 |
Steve's post makes me think of other possibilities mentioned, but not often photographed. The circle of daylight surrounding you as you have deep blue dark skies overhead. The rushing shadow cone of the moon as it approaches your location. The complex and only vaguely understood phenomena of "shadow-bands" that appear on bright surfaces as totally nears. In the sky, bright stars and planets appear around the sun. On this day, the bright star Regulus will be very close by, and Mercury, Mars, Jupiter and Venus will all pop into view a little further out. Clustered around the solar corona will be the bright stars of Leo.
Another feature is the visible (and audible) reactions of others watching the event unfold. The faces of onlookers can make for some cool candids.
The best advice for photograhers wanting to capture it is to have a very concrete plan and stick to it. Have your equipment set up so you can trigger the shutters with a minimum of futzing. Make sure to save at least half the period of totality so you can simply look up and enjoy... |
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05/24/2007 03:29:37 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Solar eclipses are cyclic. The one in 2017 is the next in the cycle from the one that occured on February 26, 1979 .... That is a once in a lifetime photographic opportunity. |
If they are on a 38-year cycle, maybe a twice in a lifetime event? : ) |
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05/24/2007 03:33:15 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Solar eclipses are cyclic. The one in 2017 is the next in the cycle from the one that occured on February 26, 1979 .... That is a once in a lifetime photographic opportunity. |
If they are on a 38-year cycle, maybe a twice in a lifetime event? : ) |
Actually more common than that (sorta).... linky
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05/24/2007 03:33:38 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by strangeghost:
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The best advice for photograhers wanting to capture it is to have a very concrete plan and stick to it. Have your equipment set up so you can trigger the shutters with a minimum of futzing. Make sure to save at least half the period of totality so you can simply look up and enjoy... |
The best advice of all!
My solar eclipse experience was fully planned out and setup beforehand and was centered on sun photography only. I would never have expereinced the full grandeur of the event if I had not finished my program early before totality ended and looked away from the viewfinder.
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05/24/2007 03:35:16 PM · #37 |
I bet that being in a highrise building would be great. I wonder if you would see the shadow speeding towards you as the sun was being blocked out !?
In the highrise you would have the advantage of seeing the shadow approach on the ground and be able to witness the actual eclipse in the sky !
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05/24/2007 03:43:31 PM · #38 |
The saros cycle is an 18 year cycle were eclipse circumstances repeat, but there are many saros series running concurrently, so there's usually a total solar eclipse (or an annular) roughly every year and a-half.
Here is a cool movie shot by eclipse scientist Fred Espenak of NASA. The coolest part is the audio as you can hear the reactions of other viewers, including the scientist himself with his voice being the loudest. Quicktime format, about 8 megs:
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05/24/2007 03:45:39 PM · #39 |
Annular eclipse of May 30, 1984 (boy, that NASA page is cool!)
I was living in Atlanta, GA, a high school senior about to graduate. "Annular" means the moon was too far away from Earth to completely block the full disk of the sun, so you saw it as a ring of fire around the dark circle.
The center line went through a bar called the Moon Shadow. I've always wondered whether the owner knew what was coming when he named it.
We were a few miles north of the full annular effect, and in school at the time. But a few friends and I managed to find some cobalt blue glass (very dark) and a door that led to a maintenance courtyard. I can't remember how we got out of class, but we did, and took turns looking through the glass at the eclipse. It was definitely an experience I'd like to repeat. Given how close the 2017 will be to Washington, DC (and assuming we'll still be here), I think a trip a little ways south will be in order.
I think the photographic answer will be to buy or rent four or five cameras, set them up pointed up, down, and sideways, put 'em on burst mode, and find some way to take a shot every few seconds for the duration.
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05/24/2007 03:45:39 PM · #40 |
| I outta have a 60 megapixal, D900 by then... saaweet! |
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05/24/2007 03:47:44 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Solar eclipses are cyclic. The one in 2017 is the next in the cycle from the one that occured on February 26, 1979 .... That is a once in a lifetime photographic opportunity. |
If they are on a 38-year cycle, maybe a twice in a lifetime event? : ) |
Wellll... here is something to support that idea of a once in a lifetime event...
As DrAchoo and Sheryll remember it was cloudy in the Portland Metro area on Feb 26, 1979 and so actually missed the eclipse. It was partly cloudy in central Washington and Oregon. Goldendale Observatory, long touted as the only major observatory EVER to be in the direct path of a solar eclipse, was under clouds during totality and missed the event as well. I was with about 100 new found friends on a hill southeast of The Dalles, Oregon and we were lucky enough to see it unobstructed between the clouds.
Btw... if ever there was an application for HDR an eclipse is it! LOL!!!!
Message edited by author 2007-05-24 15:54:02.
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05/24/2007 03:48:38 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by levyj413:
The center line went through a bar called the Moon Shadow. I've always wondered whether the owner knew what was coming when he named it. |
More likely listening to Cat Stevens records ... |
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05/24/2007 03:49:34 PM · #43 |
If planning is key here is my plan:
Get realtor and find a house somewhere in tthe path
Buy lots of lumber
build really tall wooden platform
Get beer
Wait for aliens.... sorry wrong plan
wait for darkness
take pictures
screw really cool pictures up in pp (just like always)
Submit for challenge
get 5.1 at best |
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05/24/2007 03:50:51 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by PapaBob:
take pictures
screw really cool pictures up in pp (just like always)
Submit for challenge
get 5.1 at best |
I can't figure out how people keep stealing copies of my playbook ... : ) |
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05/24/2007 03:52:29 PM · #45 |
I fully plan on photographing the 2017 event. From where is another question. I think it will be very wise to have secondary and even tertiary locations scouted, in case of inclement weather predicted at the primary location.
My (somewhat nebulous) technical plan at this moment is to have two cameras working. One with a long lens, mounted on a tracking mount, to cover the eclipse proper, thus eliminating the need to constantly reframe.
The second camera will have a WA or normal lens, and be set up to record a more "environmental" record of the eclipse.
Both cameras would be set up to be repeatedly triggered by remote(s). |
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05/24/2007 03:53:32 PM · #46 |
| Sorry I stole you plan but when you see a good plan you need to use it and just say it is yours! |
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05/24/2007 04:09:28 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by PapaBob:
Sorry I stole you plan but when you see a good plan you need to use it and just say it is yours! |
Plagiarize,
Let no one else's work evade your eyes,
Remember why the good Lord made your eyes,
So don't shade your eyes,
But plagiarize, plagiarize, plagiarize...
Only be sure always to call it please, "research".
--Tom Lehrer, Lobachevsky |
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05/24/2007 04:24:41 PM · #48 |
| Wow, it will be right over me (just North of Nashville, TN). Now, if I only remember! |
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05/24/2007 04:28:27 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by DowseDesigns:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Wow, on my wedding day, that's AWESOME! :-) |
Does Cindi know? |
She does now :-D |
What? I was supposed to wait for an invitation in the mail? :P
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05/24/2007 04:53:04 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
I fully plan on photographing the 2017 event. From where is another question. ... |
Fritz, you might consider the west coast. Points east will be nearer to noon with the sun highest in the sky. Of course, the south side of The Grand Tetons in Wyoming might make a good choice to. ;)
Totality arrives at 10:17AM on the "Left" coast and ends before 3PM in South Carolina so will be lowest in the sky for those on each coast. It is in August when the weather is clearest as well. The Three Sisters in central Oregon which are GORGIOUS or Mt. Jefferson both are near the center of totality and would make terrific landscapes.
Ironically, the sun will be in the wrong part of the sky for good seascapes on either USA coast.
That is a bummer because the center of totality makes first landfall at my favorite beach of all time for photography... Land's End in north Lincoln City, Oregon. It will experience almost 2 minutes of totality. The more DPC famous beach in Oregon, Cannon Beach, is just north of the zone of totality. Big bummer for them.
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