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05/22/2007 01:08:35 AM · #26 |
i agree that:
1. people can submit anything they want, but...
2. so far into my voting, i chanced upon desats that do not work for the subject, at all. like doing desat for the sake of doing it, lol |
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05/22/2007 01:11:45 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by crayon:
i agree that:
1. people can submit anything they want, but...
2. so far into my voting, i chanced upon desats that do not work for the subject, at all. like doing desat for the sake of doing it, lol |
this pretty much boils down, caramelizes, and de-glazes my initial point. |
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05/22/2007 01:16:25 AM · #28 |
Your allowed to voice your opinion here but when give the impression that your opinion is the THE opinion your bound to take some heat. Lots of people state opinions here in a non-judgmental way. You could have expressed that you don't get this style of photography without stating that most the photographs you saw are mediocre and suggesting to people what they need to do before they enter a challenge. I'm sorry but in my opinion you came across high and mighty. Different strokes for different folks!
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05/22/2007 01:22:07 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by _eug:
Originally posted by scalvert:
We can't reasonably expect 500 museum-quality entries. |
Well, why the heck not? ;) |
"DPC, where all the photographs are above average." (with apologies to Garrison Kiellor) |
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05/22/2007 01:37:43 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by S_Lanterman:
Originally posted by jackal9:
Yep, gotta agree! sorry we can't all be Ansel Adams, some of us (many I suspect) are here to learn and have fun doing what we love, if we don't meet some pie in the sky standard so be it...thats kinda why I'm here to learn, have fun and get better. Selective Desat. is something you like or you don't...if ya don't then don't enter or vote, I don't see the problem. |
Wow, for a minute I though DP challenge was one of those sites where someone was allowed to voice an opinion. Thank you so much for illustrating how wrong I am. From now on I'll keep all my posts to pats on the back and candy-coated sentiment. The last thing anybody needs around here is the progression of contemporary photography! |
So I am not allowed to voice my opinian?? This is progression?? "Your photos suck and my opinian is the only opinian"?? Sorry I don't agree. I don't need want, need or desire candy coated comments, but constructive would be nice...not just if you aren't any good at this don't bother....which is what I got from the post...
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05/22/2007 01:46:12 AM · #31 |
-------------TIME ! --------------
Amuse me and take a moment and read something:
DPChallenge as a coffee shop ?
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05/22/2007 01:50:51 AM · #32 |
Sorry guys, didn't mean to jump on anyone. Just meant that it's really helpful to the people who've entered the challenge if you get in there and comment as to what works/doesn't work
Message edited by author 2007-05-22 08:54:04. |
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05/22/2007 01:52:07 AM · #33 |
Please read my very first post, and you will see that it is constructive criticism. I have not singled out any one photographer on this site - I have simply pointed out what is flawed about this certain type of editing. I have admitted I admire this when it is done well, as with any type of photography slash editing. Of course you are allowed to voice your opinion, just as I have voiced mine, and of course you're not requred to agree with this, however, I don't respond well when people attack me for it.
p.s. it's "opinion" |
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05/22/2007 02:01:23 AM · #34 |
Point taken Brad, I guess it struck me the wrong way, my apoligies to anyone I may have offended including S Lanterman, that was not my intention...but yes I did take offence to the comment, I felt it an attack on MOST of the people entering the challenge as being unworthy to enter. If I have taken the post the wrong way I am truly sorry. Where's that cup of coffee!! I need it, lol.
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05/22/2007 02:08:07 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by jackal9:
Point taken Brad, I guess it struck me the wrong way, my apoligies to anyone I may have offended including S Lanterman, that was not my intention...but yes I did take offence to the comment, I felt it an attack on MOST of the people entering the challenge as being unworthy to enter. If I have taken the post the wrong way I am truly sorry. Where's that cup of coffee!! I need it, lol. |
Likewise - I'm sorry if I offended anybody here, it honestly wasn't my intention. As a graphic designer I guess I've developed a bit of a thick skin, and sometines I think I can come across the wrong way.
Jackal9 ----- handshake? |
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05/22/2007 02:11:09 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by S_Lanterman:
Originally posted by jackal9:
Point taken Brad, I guess it struck me the wrong way, my apoligies to anyone I may have offended including S Lanterman, that was not my intention...but yes I did take offence to the comment, I felt it an attack on MOST of the people entering the challenge as being unworthy to enter. If I have taken the post the wrong way I am truly sorry. Where's that cup of coffee!! I need it, lol. |
Likewise - I'm sorry if I offended anybody here, it honestly wasn't my intention. As a graphic designer I guess I've developed a bit of a thick skin, and sometines I think I can come across the wrong way.
Jackal9 ----- handshake? |
YES, please lets shake and be friends!! I can always use another friend!!! I think we owe Brad a cup of Java!!! lol.
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05/22/2007 02:12:43 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by S_Lanterman:
Originally posted by jackal9:
Point taken Brad, I guess it struck me the wrong way, my apoligies to anyone I may have offended including S Lanterman, that was not my intention...but yes I did take offence to the comment, I felt it an attack on MOST of the people entering the challenge as being unworthy to enter. If I have taken the post the wrong way I am truly sorry. Where's that cup of coffee!! I need it, lol. |
Likewise - I'm sorry if I offended anybody here, it honestly wasn't my intention. As a graphic designer I guess I've developed a bit of a thick skin, and sometines I think I can come across the wrong way.
Jackal9 ----- handshake? |
I need to remember we ALL come across the wrong way at times...my apoligies...
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05/22/2007 02:14:46 AM · #38 |
| I'm prepared to skip the java, and head straight to the wild turkey kentucky bourbon. |
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05/22/2007 02:15:58 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by S_Lanterman:
I'm prepared to skip the java, and head straight to the wild turkey kentucky bourbon. |
That works too!!! LOL.
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05/22/2007 02:18:53 AM · #40 |
Night all!! it's late in my corner of the world, good night and sweet dreams!!!
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05/22/2007 02:20:07 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by jackal9:
Night all!! it's late in my corner of the world, good night and sweet dreams!!! |
Well said, time to plug in that night light. |
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05/22/2007 02:40:45 AM · #42 |
Jack & Sam, I applaud your maturity in this and thanks for taking the time to stop and take a breath.
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05/22/2007 03:02:00 AM · #43 |
| some photos looked great without desat here... what a waste |
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05/22/2007 03:04:30 AM · #44 |
There's a difference between doing the desat 'just because' and doing it with purpose. Trying out something for the first time may lead to the former. The images with that WOW factor tend to be the latter.
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05/22/2007 03:11:13 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
There's a difference between doing the desat 'just because' and doing it with purpose. Trying out something for the first time may lead to the former. The images with that WOW factor tend to be the latter. |
you're up late cpanaiotl! |
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05/22/2007 03:18:56 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by S_Lanterman:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
There's a difference between doing the desat 'just because' and doing it with purpose. Trying out something for the first time may lead to the former. The images with that WOW factor tend to be the latter. |
you're up late cpanaiotl! |
It's only 1am. ;o)
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05/22/2007 03:32:23 AM · #47 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by S_Lanterman:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
There's a difference between doing the desat 'just because' and doing it with purpose. Trying out something for the first time may lead to the former. The images with that WOW factor tend to be the latter. |
you're up late cpanaiotl! |
It's only 1am. ;o) |
crazy albertans ;) |
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05/22/2007 08:46:41 AM · #48 |
I think it's interesting that two different people have made blanket statements that they felt certain entries fell short of excellent photography, explained why, and other users jump all over them. In neither post was anyone or any particular image specifically pointed out, yet some responders seem to be certain that the original posts referred to THEIR shot.
Let's assume some good faith here, and take a minute and think about whether that kind of response is appropriate.
Discussion regarding what, in general, makes a selectively desaturated photo work or not work is perfectly valid and shouldn't be squashed because certain people are internalizing and personalizing general critique.
I've also noticed in the related scores thread for this challenge that lots of people being grim about their low scores in this challenge.
Perhaps threads like these could be an opportunity to learn.
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05/22/2007 09:03:07 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by L2:
I think it's interesting that two different people have made blanket statements that they felt certain entries fell short of excellent photography, explained why, and other users jump all over them. In neither post was anyone or any particular image specifically pointed out, yet some responders seem to be certain that the original posts referred to THEIR shot. |
Actually, I think those who said he was referring to "their" shot were joking. Take it easy there chief! ;-) |
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05/22/2007 09:20:12 AM · #50 |
| I am one who has not tried selective desaturation before. I look at all challenges here as an opportunity to try something new (I'm completey new at photography, so I'm learning a lot!). Needless to say, my image is doing poorly, poorer than my mediocre average. But the one thing I find disheartening, is that people spend time making comments in the forums about the mediocrity of the images submitted for the challenges, but rarely actually comment ON the images. I can't state this as fact, but this is what happens with my images. I'm sitting at a 5.04 right now. I've got two comments, one saying it should've stayed all b/w, the other saying it was a great subject to do. Go figure. I guess I'm just asking those who think the images are sub par, help us out and tell us why, or what you think might've made the image work better. Just my opinion. Sorry if I wasted any more time on this subject. |
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