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03/15/2007 12:53:56 AM · #1 |
| I was told there's a thread about shooting live music in dark and limited environments. (ie. bars...etc.) Anyone have a link for me? |
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03/15/2007 11:33:50 AM · #2 |
I could offer some advice, I do a lot of live music shooting. YOu can see some of the stuff I shoot at www.japhyryder.com.
Do you have specific questions or do you want the entire rundown? |
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03/15/2007 11:37:11 AM · #3 |
| There was a concert photography learning thread hosted by BobLobster a while back - but I can't find a link to it. It had a lot of good info. |
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03/16/2007 12:06:13 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by Jmnuggy:
I could offer some advice, I do a lot of live music shooting. YOu can see some of the stuff I shoot at www.japhyryder.com.
Do you have specific questions or do you want the entire rundown? |
Well, I guess I'd like to know what settings you use? I took some shots and it just wasn't right. I didn't have a tripod at the time but I've taken some with a tripod and it's still pretty grainy (which in some cases is the look I'm going for...but mostly not. )
My ISO was bumped up pretty high and my shutter speed was super slow and they pretty much sucked.
Anything you can offer would be great. |
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03/16/2007 12:55:20 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
There was a concert photography learning thread hosted by BobLobster a while back - but I can't find a link to it. It had a lot of good info. |
I think that was this "mentorship" thread.
I took some bad concert photos myself last Saturday -- my camera is super-noisy at high ISO settings, and I only used the flash a couple of times.
Message edited by author 2007-03-16 00:56:55. |
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03/16/2007 01:04:35 AM · #6 |
| I tend to shoot a lot of concerts in low light situations. feel free to pm me if you want. |
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03/16/2007 03:49:07 AM · #7 |
Fast lens (f/2.8 or better), ISO 200 to 400, shutter speeds range from 1/80 to 1/400th second, Tamron 28-75mm, Auto-focus.
All the shots in the above folder were done in manual exposure mode set by using the spot meter and taking a few shots for testing, then once dialed in, adjusted the shutter speeds according to the viewfinder bar graph, auto-white balance was used and were all hand-held. Don't be afraid to use ISO 800 if needed, as the noise levels will be less if properly exposed, than if it is an under-exposed ISO400 shot for instance.
Message edited by author 2007-03-16 03:55:42. |
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03/16/2007 08:20:02 AM · #8 |
| Thanks everyone! I've got one gig tonight and one tomorrow. (I have very musical friends!) I'll see what I can come up with and show my handiwork on Sunday. Let's see if I can make this work. |
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03/16/2007 09:35:28 AM · #9 |
Brad was pretty spot on except that you will not have as much available light as his shot for KC and the Sunshine band. You are most likely taking photos in a small venue or bar. For that you will need to bump ISO as high as you can, I use 1600. Use an aperature around 1.8-4. Shoot in RAW mode so you can adjust the white balance later. Shoot in bursts of 3-5 shots of the same thing. This will allow you to get the shot sharp while people/lights move unexpectedly. Don't use flash. Compose your photos, use the band members and the lights to create exciting compositions.
After, i would download a noise reducing software like Neat Image. The grain will be pretty bad at 1600, but its better to have the shot sharp w/ grain than blurry w/no grain. Use NI before you do processing. |
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03/16/2007 10:09:03 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by Jmnuggy:
Brad was pretty spot on except that you will not have as much available light as his shot for KC and the Sunshine band. You are most likely taking photos in a small venue or bar. For that you will need to bump ISO as high as you can, I use 1600. Use an aperature around 1.8-4. Shoot in RAW mode so you can adjust the white balance later. Shoot in bursts of 3-5 shots of the same thing. This will allow you to get the shot sharp while people/lights move unexpectedly. Don't use flash. Compose your photos, use the band members and the lights to create exciting compositions.
After, i would download a noise reducing software like Neat Image. The grain will be pretty bad at 1600, but its better to have the shot sharp w/ grain than blurry w/no grain. Use NI before you do processing. |
Awesome thanks!
But I don't know if my camera shoots in RAW mode. What settings on the camera should I look through? Is there another term for RAW?
You're all so helpful...thanks so much for your time.
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03/16/2007 10:31:59 AM · #11 |
RAW would be in the same menu as the file size. If you don't have it thats OK. Most bars use red light as the dominant color which is a pain for photogrpahers. If your photos have a red color cast when you look at them in your camera, don't worry about it. There is no real way to avoid it. After when you process the pics, remove the color cast and you should be happy w/ the results.
Shoot a lot of photos. I think that concerts are great training. The lights and people move a lot, its usually dark and you need to make adjustments on the fly. Add in a few beers and you have quite the assignment. Enjoy. Don't forget to actually listen to the music too. |
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03/17/2007 08:44:21 AM · #12 |
Warning!!!!
Based on this thread I was all pumped to shoot a concert last night. (Meatloaf for those of you old enough to remember!)
Got to the arena and was told I had a professional camera. Could not take it in. Their rule was if the lens is removable, it's professional.
Here is the real rub!!! I was in the second row right in front of the stage with an unobstructed view of the entire stage!!!!
This weeks mutiple light source challenge taunted me the entire show...
Lesson learned... alway pack your P&S
Despite my frustration...it was a great concert. |
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03/18/2007 03:32:51 AM · #13 |
MEATLOAF!!! I'm old enough! Too bad about the camera. I'd have been "ooh that would have been a good shot" all night. Did you get to enjoy yourself?
BTW...I have my gig shots. I want to sift through them and bring out my favorites and get advice on pp. Stay tuned.
Thanks for all your help folks! |
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03/18/2007 03:46:04 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by BMacD:
Warning!!!!
Based on this thread I was all pumped to shoot a concert last night. (Meatloaf for those of you old enough to remember!)
Got to the arena and was told I had a professional camera. Could not take it in. Their rule was if the lens is removable, it's professional.
Here is the real rub!!! I was in the second row right in front of the stage with an unobstructed view of the entire stage!!!!
This weeks mutiple light source challenge taunted me the entire show...
Lesson learned... alway pack your P&S
Despite my frustration...it was a great concert. |
you shoulda prolly jsut glued that sucker on their, and then challenge them to "remove it"
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03/18/2007 07:53:04 PM · #15 |
Ok kids,
These are four of my favorites. I'm rather disappointed, but these are better than any I've gotten at other gigs of theirs. I've done nothing to these but resize them. Any ideas or are they unsalvageable?
 
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03/19/2007 01:53:52 PM · #16 |
they look pretty good
i mean, i dont know how much more you could get out of them
maybe a little noise ninja, or neat image to compoisate for the high ISO?
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