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03/08/2007 07:29:20 PM · #1 |
If you all remember my thread a while back about looking to get hired for the washington auto show, the deal fell through and the client basically said "if i want to pay for pictures, i might as well take them myself"
Well that racing company has been interested in me for quite some time now and its all been a really big tease with offers flying back and forth and neither party coming to a conclusion.
So today I got an offer and i wanted to see what you guys think
Transportation, Pit Passes, Hotels, food and drink will all be paid for. Thats about it. No real exchange of currency.
The only reason I even entertained this offer is because im majoring in journalism with a minor in photography, so it would be good to be credited in several auto magazines, and be alongside this racing team when they tour the country.
Thoughts? |
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03/08/2007 07:42:01 PM · #2 |
| Sounds like it will at least get your foot in the door and help you get established! :) |
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03/08/2007 07:47:45 PM · #3 |
I think that if there's not an exchange of currency you may need to be careful.. Nothing wrong with compensating you in other ways but I think that less scrupulous companies/people could be trying to avoid legal things by doing it this way.
Not sure that makes any sense at all so maybe someone else could elaborate. |
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03/08/2007 07:48:33 PM · #4 |
If you get to retain copyright to the shots in the event someone else wants to buy them, I'd say go for it. Heck, I'd say go for it anyway -- exposure is good! As long as it's not costing you anything but time, it's an OK deal.
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03/08/2007 07:49:42 PM · #5 |
GET ANY DEAL IN WRITING!
ETA: Have fun good luck!
Message edited by author 2007-03-08 19:50:18. |
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03/08/2007 08:16:24 PM · #6 |
| I started working for the local paper for free every Tuesday when I was leaving school and college - Not only did I get free advice and learn so much that no school could teach me it also got my foot in the door - A big plus. A few years later I went for a job at a paper but was told I was too young - I pleaded my case and they at least gave me the opportunity to come for an interview - Turned out the paper I used to work free for was a sister paper in another county - 1 quick call to the editor and I was allowed a full interview and ended up getting my first full time paid for paper job at the grand ol age of 21 - The ad had asked for only applicant with many years experience and to be over 25. So go ahead - At least your expenses are paid - It would be a great experience. |
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03/09/2007 03:36:06 PM · #7 |
| take the work and bring your business cards. You have no clout to be charging a lot for shooting something like this. The fact that they will pay for all your expenses and put you up in a hotel, give you all access and feed you. Do it. Think of it as in invite to a huge party in which you can network your ass off. Drop cards to everyone, talk to people, get cards/numbers. A few gigs like this and then you can start to ask for financial compensation. |
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03/12/2007 02:02:52 AM · #8 |
Sounds like they want ad material? If they have money to pay for magazine ads, then they have money to pay for the material for the magazine ads.
Just something to think about.
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03/12/2007 02:17:22 AM · #9 |
I want to tell you not to...
but I just did something like this for Quiksilver in August ..and I don't really regret it. It has opened up the possibility for me shooting a surf tour, and gotten me contacts. It was a lot of work shooting but I got good feedback and had fun.
Normally those aren't worth it, especially if you are already a working pro, but you gotta take risks to start...and if you think it could pay off, go for it ..
so sure man I'd go shoot it.
just keep your copyrights, and don't do it more than once.
You need to get paid, but in a sense you need to spend money (aka time) to make money. |
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03/12/2007 09:21:32 PM · #10 |
this is a GREAT opportunity--TAKE IT!
at this point, it's not about the money. it's about access and getting experience.
shoot as much as possible, especially feature stuff. work on developing your photojournalistic eye. look for the shots that tell the back-story. the racing action is only about 10-15% of what there is to shoot.
if you really want to get something out of this, try this approach. help the client develop a set of deliverables for you get. on the side, you start developing your own stories. make sure you deliver for the clients, but also, make sure you get everything you need.
if you want any more feedback, pm me. |
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03/12/2007 09:28:35 PM · #11 |
what Skip said. It's about the experience. I guess I'm curious why you might expect to make a significant wage for this when you are still in school? Money comes with experience. Here's your chance at getting experience.
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