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03/01/2007 01:26:22 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by De Sousa:
I don't think people are getting sick of splashs. It's a very difficult shot to reach, and it only works when you catch the moment.
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Actually the reason they do well is they are really simple to do but people think they are hard. |
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03/01/2007 01:28:27 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by De Sousa:
I don't think people are getting sick of splashs. It's a very difficult shot to reach, and it only works when you catch the moment.
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Actually the reason they do well is they are really simple to do but people think they are hard. |
i think big splashes like the one you recently did are fairly easy but macro ones like Irene does are much harder (without triggers) from my experience at least. |
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03/01/2007 01:31:37 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by Elvis_L:
i think big splashes like the one you recently did are fairly easy but macro ones like Irene does are much harder (without triggers) from my experience at least. |
That seems more masochistic than anything ;) Triggers (sound/ interval/ drop) are cheap and simple to build as well.
So I would agree that it can be extremely difficult, taxing and time consuming to do it without triggers, requiring a lot of skill and patience. But making and using triggers is not expensive or hard. |
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03/01/2007 01:32:09 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by cryan:
The worst thing is, they take these great shots in the middle of the night when "normal" people are sleeping. |
It's winter. It's always night. ;o) |
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03/01/2007 01:33:03 PM · #55 |
| I'm tired of people complaining about stuff being overdone. |
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03/01/2007 01:34:07 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Elvis_L:
i think big splashes like the one you recently did are fairly easy but macro ones like Irene does are much harder (without triggers) from my experience at least. |
That seems more masochistic than anything ;) Triggers (sound/ interval/ drop) are cheap and simple to build as well.
So I would agree that it can be extremely difficult, taxing and time consuming to do it without triggers, requiring a lot of skill and patience. But making and using triggers is not expensive or hard. |
no argument here. i tried for like an hour then started looking up triggers:)
Message edited by author 2007-03-01 13:34:56. |
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03/01/2007 01:34:46 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by Elvis_L:
no argument here. i tried for like an our then started looking up triggers:) |
I'm planning on moving to watermelons and pumpkins next, just as soon as I can find a big enough fishtank. |
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03/01/2007 01:35:04 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by nards656:
I'm tired of people complaining about stuff being overdone. |
My thoughts exactly. This is supposed to be a learning site. One learns by trying to achieve what others have already done well.
Creativity is stifled enough without excluding certain types of shots. |
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03/01/2007 01:35:41 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by alfresco:
Splashing water, duckie, and beach - all in one. With this shot I was able to get all of them out of my system
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LOL...wheres the baby holding the woody with a flower?? |
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03/01/2007 01:35:55 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by Elvis_L:
no argument here. i tried for like an our then started looking up triggers:) |
I'm planning on moving to watermelons and pumpkins next, just as soon as I can find a big enough fishtank. |
honestly that would be very funny, just be sure your home owners/renters insurance is paid up first:) |
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03/01/2007 01:36:33 PM · #61 |
Here's my list of tiring pics:
- ugly girlfriends/wives used as models
- bugs on flowers
- birds sitting on a tree
- baby snapshots - I know, they are all cute (I have 3) but...
- bad pics with objects hanging in the air... magic, duh!
That being said, I give 1s and 2s only to really bad pics like some out of focus snapshots with nothing interesting in them. What feedback can you give on those??? If someone thought they can submit those to a challenge I don't think that anything I say will make any difference. |
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03/01/2007 01:38:42 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by nards656:
I'm tired of people complaining about stuff being overdone. |
My thoughts exactly. This is supposed to be a learning site. One learns by trying to achieve what others have already done well.
Creativity is stifled enough without excluding certain types of shots. |
I am all for learning the techniques and trying the shots..but I would leave them in my portfolio rather then enter for a challenge...Because I think the voting population will let the commonality of the image affect the score.
Also redoing a shot that you like may be a great way to learn, for sure! But I do not think that is creative...
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03/01/2007 01:39:51 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by Elvis_L:
yea but it is uber cool. |
Thanks! Only took about 900+ shots to get the splash I wanted. I have to look into those triggers. |
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03/01/2007 01:41:22 PM · #64 |
I agree that we should be voting/commenting largely on something other than just the subject matterâ€Â¦ for example focus, clarity, positioning, etc. If someone wants to specialize in waves or weddings or sunsets or splashes, so be it. They still deserve our honest votes and comments on how well they did on whatever they chose to photograph, and not based on how unappreciative we might be of what they happened to choose. Personally, I’d like to see all sunsets and sunrises, as I find them all so very inspiring and never grow tired of them. And photos of the northern lights are particularly challenging, so we should still be able to appreciate and evaluate these photos even if there are lots of them. Besides, no two are the same!
Having such a huge number of photos does become cumbersome. I reach “saturation point” and take several breaks during the voting process or wait until the next day to do more voting. Maybe there is a way to sub-categorize more or somehow reduce the quantities!
As a fairly new member here, I sure do agree with git04rit:
I am new to photography and use these challenges as a way to push myself to try new things. I know that my photos aren't contenders for a top 10 finish, but the amount I have learned trying to pull off some of these challenges has been a huge jump start for me. I tried very hard to pull off a shot that I thought was creative and was pretty proud of myself when finished. So for those of you who leave comments that are constructive, Thank you! For those who are always to negative, please remember those who are trying to learn.
And when we are inclined to moan and grown about others photos maybe we should remember:
“When words become unclear, I shall focus with photographs. When images become inadequate, I shall be content with silent. -Ansel Adams
And perhaps we should also all work harder on developing new depths in our “perceptive spirit”!
“There are worlds of experience beyond the world of the aggressive man, beyond history, and beyond science. The moods and qualities of nature and the revelations of great art are equally difficult to define; we can grasp them only in the depths of our perceptive spirit. -Ansel Adams
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03/01/2007 01:45:14 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Really hot naked chicks. I hate that I have to vote 20% of the challenge to make the 10 votes count. |
I agree raise the naked chicks and lower the % and will some one give me a new set of glasses these ones are fogging up
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03/01/2007 01:48:53 PM · #66 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
And then, of course, there are Woodie masterpieces that will live forever in the hearts of all true-blue DPCers, such as this one:
Robt. |
Wow bear, you're looking younger all the time! |
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03/01/2007 01:50:14 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by Telehubbie:
Originally posted by Elvis_L:
yea but it is uber cool. |
Thanks! Only took about 900+ shots to get the splash I wanted. I have to look into those triggers. |
you should they are like $15 bucks. although some require you to destroy a remote so add another $30 or so. still worth saving the shutter. |
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03/01/2007 01:58:27 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by Rae-Ann:
I am all for learning the techniques and trying the shots..but I would leave them in my portfolio rather then enter for a challenge...Because I think the voting population will let the commonality of the image affect the score.
Also redoing a shot that you like may be a great way to learn, for sure! But I do not think that is creative... |
See, my opinion here is that you are attempting to influence the voting pattern of the site. A very limited number of people here are speaking very loudly to try to make the rest of us either A) not enter a certain type of photo in the challenge, or B) vote down a certain type of photo when we see it in a challenge.
Either one is inappropriate and I consider it rude and very near to violation of TOS and challenge rules.
You have NO proof that anybody votes a certain type of photo down just because of "commonality", but yet you propose that those of us who do a beautiful picture of some sort should keep it out of challenges just because YOU think we should.
Relax. Vote it down if you like, but do me a favor and stop trying to tell everyone else how to vote on it. There ARE 100s of new people here who have never seen many of the photos that are here. Maybe THEY want to vote my photo high, and I would really like to get some good scores instead of continuously taking home crappy numbers because of inconsiderate threads like these.
Edit - I know this post sounds really rude; I'm sorry for that, seriously. I don't mean to be, and I'm surely not meaning to be personally insulting to RaeAnn.
Message edited by author 2007-03-01 14:00:00. |
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03/01/2007 01:58:32 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by AGrigorof:
Here's my list of tiring pics:
- ugly girlfriends/wives used as models |
I got to take exception to this... What a hell of an attitude. Recommended reading: The Velveteen Rabbit — "For when you are real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand."
I'm actually on the opposite end of the spectrum; I'd rather look at real wrinkles and such than the artificial beauty so many consider the apotheosis of portraiture.
R.
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03/01/2007 02:01:48 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by AGrigorof:
Here's my list of tiring pics:
- ugly girlfriends/wives used as models |
I got to take exception to this... What a hell of an attitude. Recommended reading: The Velveteen Rabbit — "For when you are real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand."
I'm actually on the opposite end of the spectrum; I'd rather look at real wrinkles and such than the artificial beauty so many consider the apotheosis of portraiture.
R. |
I disagree, I'd rather look at pictures of pretty girls with great big boobies.. |
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03/01/2007 02:03:56 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by AGrigorof:
Here's my list of tiring pics:
- ugly girlfriends/wives used as models |
I got to take exception to this... What a hell of an attitude. Recommended reading: The Velveteen Rabbit — "For when you are real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand."
I'm actually on the opposite end of the spectrum; I'd rather look at real wrinkles and such than the artificial beauty so many consider the apotheosis of portraiture.
R. |
i agree. i was going to let it go but you put it nicer than i would have. sure sometimes i think someone is not good looking but often i see comments where people comment them proving that we all see differently. |
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03/01/2007 02:05:42 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by nards656:
Originally posted by Rae-Ann:
I am all for learning the techniques and trying the shots..but I would leave them in my portfolio rather then enter for a challenge...Because I think the voting population will let the commonality of the image affect the score.
Also redoing a shot that you like may be a great way to learn, for sure! But I do not think that is creative... |
See, my opinion here is that you are attempting to influence the voting pattern of the site. A very limited number of people here are speaking very loudly to try to make the rest of us either A) not enter a certain type of photo in the challenge, or B) vote down a certain type of photo when we see it in a challenge.
Either one is inappropriate and I consider it rude and very near to violation of TOS and challenge rules.
You have NO proof that anybody votes a certain type of photo down just because of "commonality", but yet you propose that those of us who do a beautiful picture of some sort should keep it out of challenges just because YOU think we should.
Relax. Vote it down if you like, but do me a favor and stop trying to tell everyone else how to vote on it. There ARE 100s of new people here who have never seen many of the photos that are here. Maybe THEY want to vote my photo high, and I would really like to get some good scores instead of continuously taking home crappy numbers because of inconsiderate threads like these.
Edit - I know this post sounds really rude; I'm sorry for that, seriously. I don't mean to be, and I'm surely not meaning to be personally insulting to RaeAnn. |
Well thank you for the disclaimer but it does sound like a personal attack...
It seems every time I try to state my own small opinion on an issue here I get attacked for it.
I AM NOT TRYING TO INFLUENCE voters..are you trying to get me banned? Why would you accuse me of that because my opinion may not be the same as yours?
I never told anyone how to vote I clearly used the pronoun "I" four times in my post.
Thank You ! I will stay out of the forums since clearly a free exchange of ideas and opinions is not what is wanted here. |
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03/01/2007 02:09:32 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by AGrigorof:
Here's my list of tiring pics:
- ugly girlfriends/wives used as models |
I got to take exception to this... What a hell of an attitude. Recommended reading: The Velveteen Rabbit — "For when you are real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand."
I'm actually on the opposite end of the spectrum; I'd rather look at real wrinkles and such than the artificial beauty so many consider the apotheosis of portraiture.
R. |
That didn't come out right... I'm talking about not-so-good pictures for example with some overweight girlfriend/wife with a caption like "The most beautiful girl", or something of that nature... maybe you've seen those. Still I would rather see those than some "modified" beauties
Message edited by author 2007-03-01 14:17:06. |
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03/01/2007 02:11:37 PM · #74 |
Originally posted by Rae-Ann:
Originally posted by nards656:
Originally posted by Rae-Ann:
I am all for learning the techniques and trying the shots..but I would leave them in my portfolio rather then enter for a challenge...Because I think the voting population will let the commonality of the image affect the score.
Also redoing a shot that you like may be a great way to learn, for sure! But I do not think that is creative... |
See, my opinion here is that you are attempting to influence the voting pattern of the site. A very limited number of people here are speaking very loudly to try to make the rest of us either A) not enter a certain type of photo in the challenge, or B) vote down a certain type of photo when we see it in a challenge.
Either one is inappropriate and I consider it rude and very near to violation of TOS and challenge rules.
You have NO proof that anybody votes a certain type of photo down just because of "commonality", but yet you propose that those of us who do a beautiful picture of some sort should keep it out of challenges just because YOU think we should.
Relax. Vote it down if you like, but do me a favor and stop trying to tell everyone else how to vote on it. There ARE 100s of new people here who have never seen many of the photos that are here. Maybe THEY want to vote my photo high, and I would really like to get some good scores instead of continuously taking home crappy numbers because of inconsiderate threads like these.
Edit - I know this post sounds really rude; I'm sorry for that, seriously. I don't mean to be, and I'm surely not meaning to be personally insulting to RaeAnn. |
Well thank you for the disclaimer but it does sound like a personal attack...
It seems every time I try to state my own small opinion on an issue here I get attacked for it.
I AM NOT TRYING TO INFLUENCE voters..are you trying to get me banned? Why would you accuse me of that because my opinion may not be the same as yours?
I never told anyone how to vote I clearly used the pronoun "I" four times in my post.
Thank You ! I will stay out of the forums since clearly a free exchange of ideas and opinions is not what is wanted here. |
I have already apologized to RaeAnn privately but I wanted to do so publicly. My opinion is sincere, but I do not mean any insult or accusation of wrongdoing at all. Please accept my apology for inappropriate behavior and statements. |
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03/01/2007 02:17:05 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by Rae-Ann:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by nards656:
I'm tired of people complaining about stuff being overdone. |
My thoughts exactly. This is supposed to be a learning site. One learns by trying to achieve what others have already done well.
Creativity is stifled enough without excluding certain types of shots. |
I am all for learning the techniques and trying the shots..but I would leave them in my portfolio rather then enter for a challenge...Because I think the voting population will let the commonality of the image affect the score.
Also redoing a shot that you like may be a great way to learn, for sure! But I do not think that is creative... |
Don't shoot them then but don't put restrictions on everyone else just because of what you think. ;O) |
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