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01/10/2007 12:15:02 PM · #1 |
I always knew, deep down, that I was a chimper at heart, even if I tried to deny it every chance I got. However, I didn't realize how bad it really was until today.
I just bought a Canon 500N (Rebel G I believe) on eBay for IR work but I wanted to test it out with regular film before I put expensive IR film it. So, I packed my bag and headed out earlier today. I also had my 20D with me, just in case.
I took the first shot with the 500N and as soon as I pulled the camera away from my face, I looked at the back of it. I had a chuckle to myself and thought, "that was dumb". A few minutes later, I took another shot and again, without even thinking about it, I looked at the back of the camera as I pulled it away from my face. Again, another chuckle. I called my husband and told him, I thought he'd get a kick out of it.
Even after the call, I kept doing the same thing, every single time, without fail. It was a completely subconscious action, I didn't mean to do it, it just happened.
So, I'm chimper, however, I'm not as bad as some. I don't push the replay button every time I take a shot; I just like to look at it right after I take it, before it goes away. I didn't realize the habit was so deeply ingrained.
Nothing much, I just thought I'd share :)
June
Message edited by author 2007-01-10 12:17:00.
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01/10/2007 12:20:43 PM · #2 |
very funny....I too am a chimper!!! just like to 'see' it right away...I have contained my self from zooming in on the view (at lease until after I several to look at!! :-D )
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01/10/2007 12:26:11 PM · #3 |
LOL I just got a Elan IIe a few weeks back for a class I'm taking next semester that uses film (film? they still make that stuff?), and I've been doing the same thing. Take a shot, stare at the back dumbly, wondering where the preview is. And like you said, even after you know it's not going to be there, you look anyway.
Old habits die hard!
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01/10/2007 12:33:02 PM · #4 |
June -- there is nothing wrong with chimping! From years of shooting film, I never developed the habbit. About a year ago, I was shooting a family of 7 (large group for my studio)! I had metered the lights before they arrived, but didn't notice that one of the kids hit a strobe and turned the power wayup. Since I didn't chimp, I shot about 25 shots before noticing the lighting had changed ---- almost lost the entire session!
I chimp now! Its what that screen is there for!
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01/10/2007 12:35:59 PM · #5 |
On my cameras, I changed the time out value for when the screen clears (I think it defaults to 4 or 8 seconds) to "hold". So the image stays there until I clear it by pressing a button, or until the camera itself times out (for that, I set the timeout to 1 minute). The advantage is that I don't often look at the screen right away. But when I do, I don't have to hit the play button and wait for the image to come up.
Pass the banana...
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01/10/2007 12:49:39 PM · #6 |
| I always chimp several shots initially; primarily to check the histogram. It might "look" like I don't know what I'm doing, but it's actually part of that mentality that I insist a "pro" should have - make SURE you get the shot! |
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01/10/2007 01:09:02 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by nards656:
I always chimp several shots initially; primarily to check the histogram. It might "look" like I don't know what I'm doing, but it's actually part of that mentality that I insist a "pro" should have - make SURE you get the shot! |
Yeah, I'm with you... I LOVE my histogram and those blinky blown highlights warnings...
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01/10/2007 01:13:23 PM · #8 |
Chimping is not a crime.
And at least you didn't open the back to look for the image. :)
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01/10/2007 01:22:49 PM · #9 |
Chimping is not a bad thing, but it can keep you from getting shots you may want or need at some point. When you are photographing things around you that are moving or in action, chimping is not usually a good characteristic. With your 20D, there is an easy way to break yourself of the habit if you want to. Just set the review time to zero in the menu and the camera won't automatically display the image you just shot. You can always review it by pressing the review button if you want to. This will also make your battery last longer...
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01/10/2007 01:40:29 PM · #10 |
Sure, but then when I NEED to check an image, it takes even LONGER.
I leave it on a short display with info showing, check the histo if I'm concerned, and move on. My head's not on a leash :) |
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01/10/2007 02:00:37 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by nards656:
Sure, but then when I NEED to check an image, it takes even LONGER.
I leave it on a short display with info showing, check the histo if I'm concerned, and move on. My head's not on a leash :) |
In a moving environment, you will either get the shot or you won't. Histograms don't matter much, if any. If you set your camera up improperly for the environment, nothing is going to come out properly. An automatic or partially automatic mode would be preferred. Taking too much control over your exposure in a constantly changing environment will slow you down much more than chimping.
When you are in a controlled environment where you have time and full control of everything including time, you can easily shoot in any mode you choose.
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01/10/2007 02:06:18 PM · #12 |
I agree John, as a journalist (with a 35mm SLR) I often kept my camera full auto (at least until I got the shots I needed). Aperture and Shutter Priority modes were used a lot too.
Those modes are on the camera for a reason :-)
Edit: typos
Message edited by author 2007-01-10 14:06:52.
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01/10/2007 02:10:29 PM · #13 |
Oh, boy. Looks like I'm in another argument. Maybe I need some more Adderall to prevent loss of interest...
:)
Good points, John. It is very "situation" dependent. Like I said, my head isn't on a leash. I'm much more likely to grab a minute here and there to check back over stuff than I am to review every shot.
Of course, I'm not exactly a working professional, either, just because I've assisted at a couple of weddings. I did not even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. |
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01/10/2007 02:12:27 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by nards656:
I did not even stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. |
There's your problem:-) BTW, I chimp now that I'm digi ;-)
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01/10/2007 02:20:23 PM · #15 |
| I review after every 20-30 pictures or so just to make sure nothing has changed but turned off auto-preview because that sucks up a lot of battery unnecessarily. |
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01/10/2007 02:30:42 PM · #16 |
The Canon line (probably everything from the 350D on up) is very efficient at battery usage due to the low power CMOS sensor and the circuitry surrounding it (DIGIC2 processor). They'll shoot all day on a single battery, even with chimping. I haven't had to worry about battery life since my Rebel 300D days. And even it did a pretty good job (much much longer battery life than my P&S cameras).
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01/10/2007 02:39:20 PM · #17 |
For what it's worth, I believe that turning off my LCD when I first started shooting sports increased the quality and consistency of the sports photos I was producing. When there is a break in the action, I can always review what I have. I just believe that pulling the camera away from my eye during the action is a bad idea.
To nards:
I'm not trying to create an argument at all :) I'm just making a point about how my own workflow benefits me. I wouldn't try to encourage anyone NOT to chimp. In my shooting situations for the newspaper, it can be costly to chimp. If I was shooting weddings, I would probably feel the same way. At a wedding, the more good photos I get, the more money I would stand to make from the client. When I am not looking through my lens, I'm not making money :)
When I'm shooting some still life or landscape, chimping and analyzing each shot individually IS rather important. As you mentioned earlier, the histogram is a useful tool.
For me, whether or not to chimp is dependent on the situation...
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01/10/2007 02:54:53 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
To nards:
I'm not trying to create an argument at all :) |
I know. :) There are just those who would say I've been rather argumentative on here lately, so I'm trying to talk less and burn more villages faster... |
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01/10/2007 03:13:10 PM · #19 |
I didn't mean to start an argument on whether chimping was useful or not, I just wanted to share a funny experience about how much I've gotten used to digital, that's all.
June
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01/10/2007 03:19:49 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Chiqui:
I didn't mean to start an argument on whether chimping was useful or not, I just wanted to share a funny experience about how much I've gotten used to digital, that's all.
June |
Yes, you did :) :) :)
Oh, wait... |
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01/10/2007 04:16:17 PM · #21 |
Well, I'm gonna pimp myself a bit. Here's the digital results of today's little adventure
Chelsea Walk
June
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