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11/01/2003 10:03:06 AM · #1 |
I know this has been covered a million times before but it still gets my irish up. Why do people totally insist on submitting pictures that have nothing to do with the challenge and then get angry because they scored low points. I am not even talking about the ones that might be subjective according to your interpretation of the shot but the ones that out and out have nothing to do with the challenge. The name of this clube is DPChallenge. Is there something that people don't understand about that?
If we could just submit whatever we wanted then they would have open challenges and the topic would be up to the individual. However, that is not the case so please stop putting in your pet photos for the floral challenges (just an example). |
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11/01/2003 10:08:21 AM · #2 |
Perhaps if they read the rules:
Each challenge will state its dates for voting. Users should rate each and every photograph in the challenge on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being a perfect photograph). At the end of the week, the photograph holding the greatest average of votes will be declared the winner of that challenge. Second and third place photographs will also be recognized. While voting, users are asked to keep in highest consideration the topic of the challenge and base their rating accordingly.
Then they would understand why they'd get low scores.
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11/02/2003 05:10:07 PM · #3 |
I'm so sorry. I seem to have entered a picture that no one is liking in the grace challenge. I don't know WHAT I was thinking. It's getting it's well deserved low votes. All I can say is, it looked very beautiful to me at the time I entered it. and graceful too. and I still have the same opinion. Oh my, what have I done?
But, talking about the wrong image, how many of us have entered one that was something we really liked, that we thought fit; and then, when the voting started, found out we were way off the mark? |
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11/02/2003 05:32:37 PM · #4 |
Cody-
I have entered photos (ALONE) that I thought fit the challenge only to discover that I was way off base because people who don't live in the "Northeast" don't understand what rowhomes are. Not that I would have scored much higher if they had but what I'm talking about is someone who puts a picture of themselves in when the challenge is "truck," or something similar to that. Look how many pets wind up in all sorts of categories that are not appropriate. Just take a look at the current challenge for Halloween. It said -- "take a picture of something spooky." Do you think a dog in a weird hat is spooky or do you think that a photo of a child with candy is spooky (these are ficticious examples)? Spooky to me means ghosts, goblins, ghouls, eerie, gravestones, witches, haunted etc. |
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11/02/2003 05:45:44 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by pcody:
But, talking about the wrong image, how many of us have entered one that was something we really liked, that we thought fit; and then, when the voting started, found out we were way off the mark? |
I know what you mean there PCody. I have 2 entries in right now, Shadows and Grace. Shadows I didn't like much, it was pretty much a snapsot that came out better than I thought. Grace I spent a lot of work on, loved it. Looking at the scores .... they are both getting the same, Shadows actually being slightly higher. Overall it balances, as one is getting less than I hopes, one more.
I think I may be finding that I do better with the less arranged, studio style, shots than I do with the more complicated ones. It is as if I can't quite get the brillience of a studio shot, so people see an effort that ALMOST worked, or I can snap and get a good standard shot and do just as well.
Having said that, I'm keeping going with the studio shots as I really enjoy doing them and am learning bazillions as I go :)
As for meeting challenges ...... I recognise that in many cases the person does attempt to meet the challenge, but often the audience just doesn't get it. I see that as a mix of the audience maube not looking deep enough coupled with the photographer maybe not always getting the message across as well as they might.
However, there are most definately the "I'll enter my cat in the still life challenge as it stayed still while I took the photo. Oops, it is dead, great, it meets the "still" portion of the challenge even better, though the "life" part may now be a problem".
I am a huge fan of people making attempts to meet the challenge, but I do recognise that at times I may be the one at "fault" in not spotting how they saw they met the challenge. There were 2 like that for grace, I scored as I would for a challenge not met entry (which for me is normal score, minus 1 typically) and left both people a comment that I wasn't sure how they meant grace. Both people replied to me, gave me their interpretation, and in both cases I could then see it and adjusted my score accordingly.
P.S. No slight on cat photos intended, it is just an example that worked with cats ;) Any insinuation that I prefer cats to be dead is totally accidental, even if true ;)
Message edited by author 2003-11-02 17:49:25.
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11/02/2003 05:51:30 PM · #6 |
I'm still interested to see how many different interpretations of "Infinite" there will be...AND how they'll be scored.
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11/02/2003 06:03:03 PM · #7 |
Yes, same here Quadrajet.
With my entry for instance, and making sure I do not give anything away .... I know that some people will not get it, they will need some sort of background in science or maths, and thus many may miss the point completely. I'll live with that as I had fun doing it, and that's what here is about for me (yeah yeah yeah, even if I do want better scores ;)
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11/02/2003 06:08:56 PM · #8 |
Simon. I'm really picky about scoring studio shots, and maybe just not me. I think there is a much higher standard for them. After all, you have all the time in the world and the ability to change things, arrange lights and generally do whatever you have to do to get the perfect picture.
I'm trying to learn to do some also. For me, it's hard because I don't have the experience or equipment needed to do it well. But you're right, you can learn a lot by attempting them.
I wish there more entries for infinite! I wonder if the holiday kept people so busy they couldn't take any pictures. |
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11/02/2003 06:20:35 PM · #9 |
pcody,
I think the reason for the poor infinite turnout is the fact that...well it's such an abstract idea. Sure there are the cliche infininte shots, you know, the first 2 or 3 ideas that pop into your head. Finding something that is out of the ordinary and then doing it well is what's so difficult about this challenge (imho). I'm going to try very hard to keep an open mind about the subject matter when voting in the infinite challenge.
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11/02/2003 06:31:01 PM · #10 |
| Anyone who thinks a photo doesn't meet a challenge maybe needs to let a comment and ask the photographer to explain how they feel it fits the challenge. Obviously most people can find a way to relate their own photo to the challenge and you just don't see it but let them enlighten you. |
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11/02/2003 06:46:16 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by sonnyh:
Just take a look at the current challenge for Halloween. It said -- "take a picture of something spooky." Do you think a dog in a weird hat is spooky or do you think that a photo of a child with candy is spooky (these are ficticious examples)? Spooky to me means ghosts, goblins, ghouls, eerie, gravestones, witches, haunted etc. |
I agree with the main point of the thread that photos should fit the challenges, but I did want to point out something about this particular statement.
The whole details were "A Halloween theme for October 31st. For those that do not celebrate halloween, just photograph something spooky"
To me that meant if you DID celebrate Halloween, anything with a Halloween theme was fine - spooky or not. My photo isn't spooky at all but the context of it is definitely Halloween. The 'just photograph something spooky' to me is directed at those who don't celebrate Halloween so they can still participate.
I don't mean to pick on you, but this is an instance that I think is telling in general. Sometimes people home in on only one aspect/phrase of what the details are directing, and if that one piece isn't fulfilled then the image is deemed unsuitable, when it may fit another part of those same details.
I prefer that the photos meet all aspects of the details - but if it is at least met partially, I try to give the benefit of the doubt.
Just my thoughts.
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