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12/28/2006 10:35:37 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
On the other hand if I find the image unappealing based on subject it's probably going to get a lower vote, even if technically well done it won't rise past a middle score.
Everyone has personal opinions and you voice your opinion with your score. I'm not going to skip an image because I don't like the subject. That defeats the purpose of voting.
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Point taken .... and I agree that there is an emotional part to voting ... but at least you consider the technical aspects of the photograph and wouldn't vote it a '1' or a '2' just because you didn't care for the subject ... my issue is with voters who see the subject, are immediately turned off and zing it without even considering the technical quality of the photo ...
That emotional response is also part of what makes DPC such a great community ... people know what will score high and what subjects will score low ... they take that chance when submitting ...
LOL ... apparently I'm not totally on one side or the other since my post is in favor of/ and against both sides! I'll shut up for now!!!
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12/28/2006 10:53:46 AM · #52 |
Come on guys - if nudity is supposed to be banned then what about these:
 ( timfythetoo)
 ( ecameron)
 ( L2)
- because they might make kids want to start smoking...
 ( Pipe_Dream)
 ( silverscreen)
 ( jonpink)
- because they might turn kids into alcoholics...
...or a lot of other subjects that some might find offending.
Come on now - get a life... :)
Edit to correct bad link
Message edited by author 2006-12-28 10:57:43. |
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12/28/2006 05:38:46 PM · #53 |
| not only that, if you look at labuda's portfolio, it implies drug use etc. I mean look at his "trainspotting" shot. It's a triburte to the movie "trainspotting"...and it's alllll about heroine use. If you have issues with "family safe" content, then thsi is not hteplace for you. NOt that we try and make it sec and drug oriented, but there are NO boundries here. |
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12/28/2006 05:51:57 PM · #54 |
this is a great comment - bitter as it sounds, I agree. However, since the question was regarding whether this is a "family" site. It all depends on the definition - Are you shielded from anything that might be difficult to explain? ... NO! ;]
Originally posted by Golgo13:
People are lazy. They donât want to take the time to check out what their kids might or might not be seeing ahead of time. If you are worried about what your âchildâ may see then screen it yourself instead of asking someone else to do your job as a parent. |
Message edited by author 2006-12-28 17:55:46. |
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12/28/2006 06:06:39 PM · #55 |
And all those gun photos and guitars... no one wants their children to grow up to be murderers or rock stars :-)
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12/28/2006 06:08:48 PM · #56 |
| No way were all crazy "MF's" |
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12/28/2006 06:12:22 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by biteme:
the thing that bothers me is that this discussion has been started over and over again.
if you don't want to see nudity, you might as well throw your tv out of the window, including the newspaper with pics of drama on the frontpage, magazines with ads (like Leroy's ;-) ), and you might as well throw your pc out too.
Nudity is the human body without clothes. You got a body your own. Your kids got one their own too.
If you don't want to see nudity, close your eyes. Because it's everywhere. And ain't it beautiful?
PS: I'm not talking about pornographic images or something like that. |
you said it excellent:) I agree totally. |
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12/28/2006 06:16:12 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by silverfoxx:
Originally posted by biteme:
the thing that bothers me is that this discussion has been started over and over again.
if you don't want to see nudity, you might as well throw your tv out of the window, including the newspaper with pics of drama on the frontpage, magazines with ads (like Leroy's ;-) ), and you might as well throw your pc out too.
Nudity is the human body without clothes. You got a body your own. Your kids got one their own too.
If you don't want to see nudity, close your eyes. Because it's everywhere. And ain't it beautiful?
PS: I'm not talking about pornographic images or something like that. |
you said it excellent:) I agree totally. |
But one person's tasteful nude is another's pornography. |
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12/28/2006 06:16:46 PM · #59 |
| Sounds like daydreams of Sisyphus; in Greek mythology, was a king punished in the underworld by being sent to roll a huge rock up a hill throughout eternity. |
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12/28/2006 06:32:21 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by pamelasue:
..... no need to zing the photographer with a low score because you don't like the subject ... |
But shouldn't you vote according to how well you like the shot? Would you ever vote a photo of a gun a 10? How about a swastika?.....or maybe vote a low score as a matter of protest? I see nothing wrong with voting any way you like. Some technically perfect photos might not get anything but 1's if the subject was not appealing.
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12/28/2006 06:45:54 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by jhonan:
Incidently - I hope voters are scoring that particular 'AA Battery' shot a '1' for DNMC.
We all know they take D Cell batteries, not AA batteries. |
Maybe you are using the wrong kind ;)
June
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12/28/2006 06:58:23 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by Chiqui:
Originally posted by jhonan:
Incidently - I hope voters are scoring that particular 'AA Battery' shot a '1' for DNMC.
We all know they take D Cell batteries, not AA batteries. |
Maybe you are using the wrong kind ;)
June |
:-)
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12/28/2006 07:00:05 PM · #63 |
| I think theres a difference between Nude Photography, and Porn... the beauty of a human in Nude photography is displayed and showing them in there natural state just as if we were an animal or another thing on this earth. Porno is like abusement of the humban body and is discraceful. |
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12/28/2006 07:02:29 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by Jimbo_for_life:
I think theres a difference between Nude Photography, and Porn... the beauty of a human in Nude photography is displayed and showing them in there natural state just as if we were an animal or another thing on this earth. Porno is like abusement of the humban body and is discraceful. |
Hmmm, so lions humping on the Discovery Channel is porn? :-)
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12/28/2006 07:02:59 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Originally posted by pamelasue:
..... no need to zing the photographer with a low score because you don't like the subject ... |
But shouldn't you vote according to how well you like the shot? Would you ever vote a photo of a gun a 10? How about a swastika?.....or maybe vote a low score as a matter of protest? I see nothing wrong with voting any way you like. Some technically perfect photos might not get anything but 1's if the subject was not appealing. |
Well yes, you may, within reason, vote how you please, but don't you think it's narrow-minded to only vote high those shots that are "pleasing" to you? Isn't photography about conveying emotion, and doesn't emotion have a dark side? Are we to insinuate that we should only shoot lighthearted, positive images? If that's the case, I'm hanging it up. |
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12/28/2006 08:53:20 PM · #66 |
Not at all Kirbic. I really can't see how you got that from my comment. Technical perfection is subjective. Photos will be "appreciated" in different levels and some of them will be despised by some folks and if those people choose to score them a 1, that's OK by me. I suspect the ones who enter the pics that get 1's kind of expected them. Don't you?
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12/28/2006 10:17:59 PM · #67 |
I got it from the part where you stated "Some technically perfect photos might not get anything but 1's if the subject was not appealing."
The premise that a photo must be appealing to be "good" is deeply flawed. Let's take this thought a little further; you asked about a photo of a swastika; if a photojournalist takes a photo of neo-nazis demonstrating and that includes images of the swastika, is the image bad? Has the journalist erred by depicting a symbol with negative implications? Must we be spared images of things we'd probably rather not see?
I say, bring me your thoughs on the world, your artistic expressions of all facets of human existence, of both triumph and tragedy, ecstasy and anguish, beauty and ugliness. All are part of being human.
All that said, there *are* photos that are better not taken. Photos which clearly exploit or degrade are rarely, if ever, justifiable. |
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12/28/2006 10:22:18 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by jhonan:
Incidently - I hope voters are scoring that particular 'AA Battery' shot a '1' for DNMC.
We all know they take D Cell batteries, not AA batteries. |
Some of them even plug into the wall. lmao
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12/28/2006 10:27:14 PM · #69 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
... you asked about a photo of a swastika ... |
Please note that the Nazi's did not invent the swastika -- they appropriated a design with a long history of prior use by cultures of both the Old and New Worlds.
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12/28/2006 10:29:54 PM · #70 |
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12/28/2006 10:31:15 PM · #71 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Please note that the Nazi's did not invent the swastika -- they appropriated a design with a long history of prior use by cultures of both the Old and New Worlds. |
If only Microsoft knew this. Buddhists be damned. |
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12/28/2006 10:41:26 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
I say, bring me your thoughs on the world, your artistic expressions of all facets of human existence, of both triumph and tragedy, ecstasy and anguish, beauty and ugliness. All are part of being human.
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In other words, those are the kinds of photos that "appeal" to you. :-)
I think the word "appeal" means more than just all smiles and happiness. It also refers to the power or ability to attract, interest, amuse, or stimulate the mind or emotions. So you are interested in both triumphs and tragedies, because at some level they appeal to you (and probably to most of us).
So I don't think he is so wrong to suggest that we (even you) will generally vote higher for an image that "appeals" to us (on any level) than we will to an image that does the opposite (repulse).
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12/28/2006 10:45:38 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
I think the word "appeal" means more than just all smiles and happiness. It also refers to the power or ability to attract, interest, amuse, or stimulate the mind or emotions. So you are interested in both triumphs and tragedies, because at some level they appeal to you (and probably to most of us).
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WOW, you nailed it for me.
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12/29/2006 01:07:37 AM · #74 |
Message edited by author 2006-12-29 01:09:14.
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12/29/2006 01:10:11 AM · #75 |
Originally posted by lkn4truth:
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That was a good post, why did ya kill it?
Edit: Nevermind :-)
Message edited by author 2006-12-29 01:13:28.
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