Can anybody get Canon Schematics?

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM

12/07/2006 12:50:32 PM · #1

OK, say some crazy guy is curious about fixing his own camera. While at my local store my "guy" printed up something that looked like a schematic for the 5D as far as all the parts. The piece I need replaced looks fairly simple, but I was curious to see these schematics. Is there access to this somehow? or is it only for dealers etc?

I'm just curious and like looking at stuff like this. Just call me Sylar (Heroes reference for those who watch).

No, I don't need lectures about how crazy I am...

Mick

Canon EOS-5D

12/07/2006 01:00:37 PM · #2

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

No, I don't need lectures about how crazy I am...

Are you sure about that? I could probably come up with a real good one. ;)

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/07/2006 01:10:25 PM · #3

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

You are probably supposed to be some sort of licensed repair shop, or you could try ebay

Either that or you could do worse than emailing Chuck Westfall
cwestfall@cusa.canon.com

Message edited by author 2006-12-07 13:12:32.

Ken

Canon EOS-7D

12/07/2006 01:12:18 PM · #4

I'm sure Canon guards those thing fairly close unless you're a technician. But you never know, a call to Canon parts dept may get you one. You can always give them the name of your "camera store" to see if that helps. I've bought them before for TVs and such (other mfg), and it will probably cost as much as the replacement for the messed up pins.

If you're buddies with somebody at a repair they can probably order it for you if you can't get it on your own.

12/07/2006 01:17:48 PM · #5

From an EOS FAQ. I suspect repairs to the digital cameras is even more fun without the right tools.

# Can I get a service manual for my camera/lens?

Yes you can. Canon have service manuals for just about everything. HOWEVER, be warned, EOS cameras and lenses are VERY complex. Special tools are required for almost any kind of service operation. It is almost certain that you will do more damage than good if you attempt any kind of repair. You will certainly void any kind or warranty you may have. In my opinion you should regard these manuals as intersting technical reading and NOT as a guide for repair. The 10s manual contains a lot of specifications about the camera and operating modes as well as repair info. The 630 manual is not such a good deal as it covers only the differences between the 630 and the earlier 620/650. It has a lot of technical info on the 630, but refers back to the 620/650 manual for most of the repair/adjustment proceedures. Neither the 10s nor 630 manuals cover electrical adjustments. There is a seperate manual for that (CY8-1200-071). If anyone has more info on any other manuals, please send it to me (rma@clockwise.att.com).

These manuals are available from the Canon USA Parts Center (908- 521-7230), but The Canon USA Parts Center do not accept credit cards. If you do not have an account with them, they will ship UPS COD ($4.50 extra). You can try the Canon 800 number (800) 828 4040, but at times they can be very hard to deal with. They told me that the 10s manual was only available on Microfiche, cost about $1 per page and would take 3-4 weeks to get. This is WRONG. It is printed on paper (120 pages) and cost as shown below. The people on the 800 number can be very dense. Finally the Parts Center in NJ put me in contact with Jeff (Dawson?) at the 800 number who had all the correct info, took my credit card number and said the manual would be shipped from stock via UPS. In fact it took about 2 weeks and arrived via US mail, but at least it arrived.

Pentax DA 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 AF

12/07/2006 01:55:18 PM · #6

Hey Gordon, thanks for that info. That is informative.

It seems they have it on PDF now because I saw the guy at the shop pull it off the printer. He thought the repair would involve taking the LCD off as well as the back, etc. This is what makes me think about it because the repair seems to avoid most of the "guts" of the camera. I was quick enough to see that the pins are connected to the metal piece that cradles the card as it sits in the camera. He did not think there was any soldering required. I'm guessing it is simply seated with a connector. That would be simple, it's just a matter of how much you have to remove to get to it. That's why I was curious.

vxpra

Pentax K100D

12/07/2006 02:20:28 PM · #7

What are you crazy, do you......

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

No, I don't need lectures about how crazy I am...

Nevermind.

scarbrd

Leica M10

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

12/07/2006 02:22:09 PM · #8

well that's just crazy talk!

12/07/2006 02:46:16 PM · #9

If you have a vague clue about it, I doubt it is that hard really.

I'm about to pull the AA filter out of my D60, which involves popping the sensor out as well as stripping most of the main parts out of the body, so I'll let you know ;)

12/07/2006 02:57:12 PM · #10

Originally posted by Gordon:

haha, now that sounds crazy!

12/07/2006 03:04:23 PM · #11

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asimchoudhri

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

12/07/2006 03:05:49 PM · #12

despite all the proprietary stuff that canon has in their cameras, the parts they will use for the compact flash port are probably industry standards and they get them wholesale.

if you are as crazy as i am, open it up to get the damaged part out and use that as a way to figure out what to replace it with. i'm sure it's readily available. too bad radio shack no longer sells geeky electronics stuff... 15 years ago they would surely have had the parts.

i have schematics and stuff for my 30d... i'll look to see if i can find one for it's big brother...

12/07/2006 03:34:01 PM · #13

Originally posted by asimchoudhri:

ya, that's not the problem. The part is $32 from Canon. Peanuts. The labor to put it in at my local shop is $100. That gets my little brain asking if I could do it myself, but I don't have the information needed to make that decision.

12/07/2006 03:40:52 PM · #14

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Well, the Canon D60 dissection above should probably give you a good idea on what is involved to get the body open in the first place. I suspect the CF connector replacement is similar, it'll probably be a socketed ribbon cable connection to the main PCB.

12/07/2006 03:50:31 PM · #15

Ya that makes me not want to do it at all blind. I'd need fairly details schematics of where the screws are etc. The part on your instructions that freaks me the most is removing the rubber grip. I wonder what sort of adhesive is used and the risk of damaging the grip itself.

I'm pretty competent with a screwdriver though. :)

12/07/2006 03:52:58 PM · #16

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Yup, that's probably why the labour costs are $100. Lot of fiddly stuff and not just pop out a couple of screws and you are done.

Canon EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM

12/07/2006 04:04:24 PM · #17

pay the extra $100 and be done with it. if you came into my shop and said you had bent the pins on the CF card slot, and wanted the part so you could replace it yourself - i would probably laugh ;}

idnic

Canon EOS-60D

12/07/2006 04:05:42 PM · #18

Jason, prescribe yourself some nice depressants and send the camera to the shop! :P

12/07/2006 04:08:57 PM · #19

yeah screw being happy - take some depressants and really start slouching around ;}

12/07/2006 04:11:32 PM · #20

The camera is already in the shop. I was just thinking about a rescue mission.

12/07/2006 04:19:07 PM · #21

good man !

i thought once that it can't be that difficult to replace the exhuast on my car. even though it didn't have all the right tools or equipment - i decided it would be alot cheaper than having a garage replace it, and it was cheaper. problem was i had to use a sawz all to cut part of it in close proximity to the gas tank which at the time leaked. scary enough. ( my grandfather blew himself up doing this ! )

one of the flange bolts was super rusted and stuck - in reaming on it to get it lose - which i managed - the rachet slipped off about four inches from my head - and i jammed the butt end of it into my face with all my possible might behind it. i ended up with a golf ball sized welt on the bone under my eye - leaving me basically blind in that eye for a week. and the it was very sore. i also looked like a fool.

moral is - sometimes cheaper is actually more painful than the cost;}

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

12/07/2006 04:20:49 PM · #22

Originally posted by soup:

( my grandfather blew himself up doing this ! )

and i jammed the butt end of it into my face with all my possible might behind it.

On the bright side, you'd have to be going pretty hard at a 5D to either blow yourself up, or embed part of it in your face

Ken

Canon EOS-7D

12/07/2006 04:21:08 PM · #23

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Wife's permission to tinker with the expensive toy?

Edit: hopefully no offense was taken, I'm j/k.

Message edited by author 2006-12-07 19:31:50.