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12/07/2006 12:50:03 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by stdavidson:
First, you got an average score over 6. In DPC land, and only in DPC land, that is considered a good score. |
I actually regularly participated in an online photo contest before DPC (it's now defunct) where a five score was good. I think I saw only a few 6+ scores ever. |
Et tu, Brute!
I must be tilting at windmills.
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12/07/2006 01:05:20 PM · #27 |
Hadn't seen this picture before, so my thoughts would be:
Good framing, nice tight crop on the face and cutting into the hat frames him well. The light on his face is even and soft, without too much shadow.
No connection with the subject though, other than being in close, can't see the eyes.
The background is very busy, in harsh light and results in being the highest contrast part of the scene, so your eye ends up going there, rather than to him. It seems also like the focus is on his beard, not his face, so his nose/ eyes are falling off slightly softer than might be considered desirable.
The post-processing is quite far over the top, very over-sharpened, this is particularly noticeable in the beard, but also the halo around the nose. Combined with the softer focus and over sharpening, the skin lines & creases end up looking soft and too sharp at the same time which is kind of disconcerting to me.
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12/07/2006 01:19:07 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by stdavidson:
Originally posted by SaraR:
Originally posted by stdavidson:
First, you got an average score over 6. In DPC land, and only in DPC land, that is considered a good score. |
StDavidson, you really wouldn't enjoy the English education system! In secondary and higher education a 6 out of 10 is a decent mark; also, the organisation I work for uses a scoring system for promotions and appointments - 6 out of 10 is classed as suitable with no caveats... |
Where I come from in the United States if you score below 75% on the written portion of your driving test you fail and cannot get your driver's license until you retake the written portion again and pass and go on to pass your driver's test.
I have spent a career working closely with educators in the American K-12 educational system. In graded workshops and classes that I have personally taught I expect and demand the highest level of performance from my students, and when they are challenged they deliver. I almost always have to give As and Bs, and that is on a much tougher standard than England's. I apply that same high standard to my DPC evaluations. |
here in B.C Canada you need 80% to pass |
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12/07/2006 01:20:20 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by noisemaker:
here in B.C Canada you need 80% to pass |
In Texas it was enough to just not drool on the multi-choice paper to pass.
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12/07/2006 01:25:12 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by noisemaker:
here in B.C Canada you need 80% to pass |
In Texas it was enough to just not drool on the multi-choice paper to pass. |
haha thats crazy. yeah here they have special computers that they use for the testing. |
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12/07/2006 01:28:08 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by noisemaker:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by noisemaker:
here in B.C Canada you need 80% to pass |
In Texas it was enough to just not drool on the multi-choice paper to pass. |
haha thats crazy. yeah here they have special computers that they use for the testing. |
yeah, after having sat & passed a German, British and Texan driving test, lets just say I'm most scared driving in Texas.
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12/07/2006 01:54:18 PM · #32 |
Shez,
It's a very nice image and it got a decent placement as well. Beat the stuffing out of mine :-) You have gotten some excellent feedback and what I have to say essentially duplicates some of it. But these points strike me:
1. 7 votes 3 or worse is par for the course for any but the most fantastic images, OR for images that are relatively bland and unobjectionable. I've had a few entries fail to break 6 that have almost no 3-or-worse scores, but these images were pretty blah; there was just nothing for people to either exult about or complain about.
2. Regardless of the fact that this was actually framed this way in the camera, it has the look of a "forced diagonal" as far as the challenge goes. The forums indicate that a number of people were voting down on images they felt had been shoehorned in by rotation, and that's what you did here in one sense, regardless of whether the rotation was done by twisting the camera's POV or in photoshop. There's a bunch of your 4's right there, I bet; people thinking it was a nice shot but voting it down for the unnatural looking angle of it.
3. It didn't have more HIGHER votes, no matter how appealing it otherwise is (and it's very appealing) because the PP is very harsh, as others have pointed out, at least in my opinion. Here's a much softer variation, where I have used curves to adjust the midtones and hue/saturation to desat the blues, greens and yellows to mute the lower left and the upper right. It's far from perfect, but see the gentler, more contemplative mood that's developing? I'd have to see the original to know what could be accomplished from scratch, as this posted version is already processed in a different direction.
entry:  my variation: 
Hope this helps :-) Keep the chin up; that wasn't a bad finish at all, I'm always happy with anything over 6 now.
R.
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