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11/17/2006 02:22:40 PM · #1
I am still working on editing some photographs for a Xmas present. I don't have the Wacom pen set and can't seem to draw straight lines....is there anyone out there that could take my pictures and cut out the motorcycles for me so I can change the background.

PM me if you can help....
thanks
matt
11/17/2006 02:30:42 PM · #2
So what version of Photoshop are you using?
Did you try the line tool for your straight line?
11/17/2006 02:35:36 PM · #3
I am using CS2. Meant more that I could not follow the outline of the bike. Keep getting too much of the original background. Wish I would have used a solid background with no color from the bike...then I could have just cut that out.
11/17/2006 02:37:58 PM · #4
After you've made the selection you can adjust it so getting too much or too little when doing the original outline isn't too much of a problem.
11/17/2006 02:40:35 PM · #5
try
Okay I'm lazy today- Here is a pretty good tutorial...so I don't have to type it all out. If you get stuck post back.
11/17/2006 02:48:29 PM · #6
magnetic lasso tool is what I generally use for straight lines.

drake
11/17/2006 04:07:31 PM · #7
Even if you had a wacom, you still need to practice :) So just keep trying, it's time consuming but if you really want that shot changed, you'll work for it :) gl
11/17/2006 04:09:30 PM · #8
Use the pen tool to cut your paths here is a tutorial

Message edited by author 2006-11-17 16:09:37.
11/17/2006 04:22:28 PM · #9
The mistake most people make is trying to cut or trace out an object.

The various suggestions of using pens or lassos are good examples of that.

Assuming there is reasonable contrast with the background, punching something like this out is a matter of a few seconds work to create a mask, using one or more of the channels in the original image as a base.

Otherwise, the extract tools (Image->Extract) are a good way to go too.
Unless it is a simple, geometric shape, selection tools are almost always the wrong thing to start with to make a good selection.

I have an old example of how to create a mask for exactly this reason, here
11/17/2006 04:24:58 PM · #10
I will pit my pen tool against any method you choose.

ETA: :-)

I say post a pic and lets have a battle! The more complex the better.

Message edited by author 2006-11-17 16:27:13.
11/17/2006 04:29:44 PM · #11
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

I will pit my pen tool against any method you choose.

ETA: :-)

I say post a pic and lets have a battle! The more complex the better.


All I'm saying is why waste your time drawing when there should be something about the object that already differentiates it from the background. If there is nothing that differentiates it, then sure you need to do a freehand cutout. But if it is different due to color, or tone, then make a mask from it. It takes literally seconds and it'll be more or at least as accurate as you can possibly draw it.

Take that fire hydrant. 5 seconds for a complete mask. How fast can you run around it accurately with a pen ?
11/17/2006 04:31:51 PM · #12
No I totally see what you are saying. To each his own. I prefer a path for many reasons. But your example works just as well. I am quite fast with the pen tool so its all the same to me.

Post the pic and I will show you how fast I am.

Message edited by author 2006-11-17 16:32:41.
11/17/2006 04:33:59 PM · #13
I forgot to add ...

:-P

Message edited by author 2006-11-17 16:34:05.
11/17/2006 04:36:13 PM · #14
I use Layer masks and paint brushes for the most part, but I work mostly with portraits and hair is a Beeotch.

Can't wait for a good Chromakey setup :-)
11/17/2006 04:39:30 PM · #15
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:

I forgot to add ...

:-P

It must be a Friday ;P <--Remembered to add
11/17/2006 04:58:20 PM · #16
Pen tool rocks.

Nothing is more powerful for outlines - spending time to learn to love bezier curves will be the most productive time you can spend for special effects in PP.

Did you know with the shift key held on a paint brush you can click in two places and it will draw a straight line between the two clicks?

Have you tried "show rulers (CNTRL R) and draging from the ruler into the body of the photo? Then you go to your VIEW menu and select "snap to guides" and you can freehand a straight line with any of the selection tools.

Lasso has a straight line option - press L on your keyboard the Shift-L to toggle through the different lassos. This is NOT referring to the magnetic lasso - which in my opinion is like a broken crutch - it just helps you fall down faster.

There are TONS of straight lines available. Feel free to PM me with any specific questions - I'll be glad to look at your photo and help you through it.
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