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11/04/2006 11:41:41 AM · #26 |
I have to disagree, not all muslins are to be folded when not in use. I have a hand painted "old masters" type that came with instructions to just ball it up and toss it is a bag or trunk. With some muslins the wrinkles add to the background. However, in this case folding would probably be the best option. I always fold my solid color muslins, and stuff the painted ones (but I don't have any scenics).
The best way I have found to get the wrinkles out (and this is in an 11x20) is to set one end up on the background stand, then stretch the other end out and clamp it to my ceiling. Then I spritz the whole thing with water. The weight of the wet muslin is enough to pull out the wrinkles. Of course, my entire basement is out of commission during this process, but it works very well and keeps the cat from leaving little paw prints! :) |
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11/04/2006 11:52:50 AM · #27 |
Take it to a dry cleaners and have them press it for you. They have large steam presses for jobs like this. If you can, have them fold it with tissue paper. Find a place that does a lot of wedding dresses. They should have a good clean environment, the tissue paper and be used to doing special jobs. Then either roll it back up or fold it with the tissue paper to keep it from causing heavy creases at the fold lines.
Building a frame for it would also be a good idea for the future. Then you could stretch the wrinkles out once it is set up. |
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11/04/2006 12:13:54 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by alfresco:
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by SaraR:
'well, it's kind of a PITA to iron a 10 x 20 piece of cloth... LOL,'
I can't see how it is any diferent to ironing bed sheets. Confused... |
You iron your bed sheets? OMG! |
You don't?!?!?
*hides iron, hides sheets* .... ummmm, me neither ... |
did you put that in the drawer with your collectible Hardees cups full of wine?
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11/04/2006 12:46:36 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by carisakD70:
I have to disagree, not all muslins are to be folded when not in use. I have a hand painted "old masters" type that came with instructions to just ball it up and toss it is a bag or trunk. With some muslins the wrinkles add to the background. |
In the industry that I represent, you have three options. Time, Money, or Manpower. Only two of these options are possible at any time.
If you have the time to take out the wrinkles, than ball the muslin up and create the wrinkles. BUT... it does take time to get them out, so do you have the manpower to do it? Or the money to pay to get them out?
If you have the manpower, use it to get the wrinkles out.... BUT... does that mean you may have the time to get the wrinkles out? Again, do you have the money?
If you have the money to get the wrinkles out.... does that mean you have time to waste? The money to throw at the manpower?
Proper handleing of ANY equipment, including the correct way to store the equipment will equate to only two of the three options. Time, Money, or Manpower.
Pick two, because the third option is not going to happen if you do not take care of the equipment.
Balling muslin is not taking care of the equipment.
In your case PROF, which two options do you have out of the three?
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11/04/2006 01:16:49 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by American_Horse:
In the industry that I represent, you have three options. Time, Money, or Manpower. Only two of these options are possible at any time.
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I think that is the case with any industry :-)
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11/04/2006 02:13:59 PM · #31 |
Unless I am missing something - Latex paint on cloth is almost certainly going to peel with steaming - right???? I would try hanging with weights... not even sure water in this case of a DIY type deal.
Message edited by author 2006-11-04 14:14:39. |
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11/04/2006 02:22:37 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Prof_Fate:
You folks have some good ideas.
Remember that this musin is painted with househould type latex paint - it's not a sheet in flexibility or texture. What's the setting on an iron for 'painted cloth'? Don't want things burning or sticking or changing colors. might stink a bit too? Besides, I hate ironing LOL |
When ever I do the sheets I fold them length ways to about 3 foot wide and drape them over the ironing board and scroll each section over as it is done using quite a lot of steam and heat but these are eqyptian cotton.
If you were to iron this I would say fold it to about 3 foot wide use a medium heat and place a towel on it before putting the iron on it so that it doesn't burn or stick (I do my T's with transfers on this way and it works fine everytime)
{Disclaimer: if this route is taken and something does go wrong I cannot be held responable for the results!!!} LOL
Edit: Typo
Message edited by author 2006-11-04 14:23:56.
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11/04/2006 03:25:07 PM · #33 |
A couple of ideas -- use a cover sheet so you're not ironing directly on the latex paint. I'd suggest a thin, white terry cloth towl, or -- something my Mom used to do with hand-made lace -- a paper shopping bag torn open.
Also, if you light the backdrop with small lights from 3 or 4 directions, you will minimize the appearance of wrinkling.
Personally, I'm all for opening the lens aaaalllllll the way and see how that works. You might save yourself some time. |
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11/04/2006 03:29:49 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:
Originally posted by American_Horse:
In the industry that I represent, you have three options. Time, Money, or Manpower. Only two of these options are possible at any time.
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I think that is the case with any industry :-) |
Even thugh this is getting off the subject F-mann, that is true.
However, the industry that I am involved with, and is more in tune with the photographer and photography, is more 'fluidic' than any other business out there.
The entertainment 'biz' is way more dynamic by nature than, say, a fast food joint being more static.
The 'biz' as a whole will not faulter, but a show may be cancelled at any drop of a hat. Where as McDonalds will just stop using transfats, or offer the McRib again in their menu.
The 'biz' will fire a DP at a drop of a hat to get a differant look for a show, where a kid being fired at McDonalds will be replaced by another kid doing the same job.
The 'biz' relies on professionals, like myself, to do the work quickly, safely, and within the budjet. McDonalds get the food out quickly, and safely within the time constraints from the order to the purchase.
The 'biz' does not have full time employment. McDonalds has full timers that are usually the managers.
So, the Time, Money, and Manpower equation is used in every aspect of entertainment with the goal of the final edit in mind.
So, therefore, if equipment is not taken care of, then money, and time become an issue. This issue can result in someone getting fired.
So, therefore, take care of your equipment.
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11/04/2006 03:37:52 PM · #35 |
Just an observation: This is an extraordinarily long thread, given the topic. Carry on.
ps: Ironing bedsheets??? ROFLMAO ;-) |
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11/04/2006 03:49:06 PM · #36 |
Steaming or Ironing is the best. Stretching it out by hanging it and then clamping it at the corners also works.
The photographer I work with rolls his muslins up like a parchment. The two rollers are attached to each end of the muslin and then rolled up. When in use it rolls out and you can stretch it really well. But he uses a step van/delivery truck to transport his gear and has the space to do this and with a mini-van you may have to let the muslin hang out the back like a carpet installer :-/
Message edited by author 2006-11-04 15:49:54. |
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