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 12/07/2006 05:43:49 PM · #51
Originally posted by Gordon:
have you actually ran bootcamp at all?


I have not and wont run bootcamp in my macbook... same as above I have no reason too, dont want windows no where near my mac

I have the macbook I have had it for a couple of weeks now and i love it really fast and no complaints at all

Message edited by author 2006-12-07 17:48:01.
 12/07/2006 05:46:14 PM · #52
Originally posted by digitalpins:
Originally posted by Gordon:
have you actually ran bootcamp at all?


I have not and wont run bootcamp in my macbook... same as above I have no reason too, dont want windows no where near my mac

I have the macbook I have had it for a couple of weeks now and i love it really fast and complaints at all


Except for the several posts from mac advocates saying that bootcamp is the way to get decent CS2 performance on a macbook
 12/07/2006 05:49:46 PM · #53
its not that big of a difference though that it bothers me or I notice, so I can wait for the adobe update, CS2 is fast enough for me
 12/07/2006 06:00:50 PM · #54
Originally posted by Gordon:
Since you're running PC software, though, Rosetta is a non-issue.


as long as you don't mind rebooting your laptop every time you want to open a file in photoshop, or use a OS X ap. Also you'll need to add $200 to the price of your laptop for a new XP license. Weird way to define 'non-issue' but there you go.[/quote]

If we're talking about OS X, you complain that Photoshop is slow under Rosetta. If we say "Hey, you can run it as a PC and it'll be lightning fast," you complain about rebooting into OS X. Trust me, it's a LOT harder to reboot a PC into OS X than a Mac. At least he'd have the OPTION of running OS X if he wanted to. Unless you plan on buying a disposable laptop, the Rosetta issue is temporary anyway. 4 or 5 months from now, today's Mac will outrun today's PC on either platform.

Oh, and if you bought a Dell and wanted Windows XP Pro, you'd have to add $149 for that, too. It's optional. :-/

Message edited by author 2006-12-07 18:03:54.
 12/07/2006 06:04:03 PM · #55
Originally posted by scalvert:

If we're talking about OS X, you complain that Photoshop is slow under Rosetta. If we say "Hey, you can run it as a PC and it'll be lightning fast," you complain about rebooting into OS X.


Yes, because it isn't a great option either way.

You can run it slowly under OSX
or
You can run it with poor driver support and a semi-functional trackpad in bootcamp.

Which one of those are you saying is good, compared to running it quickly on a real XP laptop ? Any time the poor performance of CS2 is brought up, you suggest that XP is a fantastic option, yet it isn't.

I've got no reason to buy XP Pro - I don't need the features it provides. Do you even understand the difference ? Parallels only supports single processor usage anyway. Does bootcamp provide driver support ? If so, then I guess I'm wrong, bootcamp would require another $299, rather than $199 for the install. My mistake. This just keeps getting cheaper and cheaper, doesn't it...

Message edited by author 2006-12-07 18:12:06.
 12/07/2006 06:05:19 PM · #56
Originally posted by scalvert:
Unless you plan on buying a disposable laptop, the Rosetta issue is temporary anyway. 4 or 5 months from now, today's Mac will outrun today's PC on either platform.


Great. For just another $600 I can buy a faster version of photoshop for mac. Bonus. Remember Adobe pulled their XP to OSX license transfer option. I'm actually trying to buy a macbook pro. I have one coming for eval from Apple.

But only if it actually makes sense. Threads like these and answers like yours keep convincing me it is an expensive and buggy route to go down, full of partially implemented drivers, costly upgrades or virtualisation of applications.

All I want to do is run Photoshop, quickly, with driver support. From the answers I see, the way to do that is to not buy a mac. Apple & Adobe screwed up somewhere for their flagship products.

I guess this is why it is in the 'if money was no object' thread though.

Message edited by author 2006-12-07 18:09:01.
 12/07/2006 06:12:03 PM · #57
Originally posted by Gordon:
You can run it slowly under OSX
or
You can run it with poor driver support and a semi-functional trackpad in bootcamp.


Thy glass art half empty. You can run it quickly under OS X and lightning-fast when the native version comes out... and who uses Photoshop with a trackpad anyway? Yuck.

Originally posted by Gordon:
I've got no reason to buy XP Pro - I don't need the features it provides. Do you even understand the difference ?


Nope, but I do know that Apple's "pro" OS is included on all Macs (as is iPhoto). FWIW, $200 is an exaggeration... several Apple retailers offer combo deals that include Windows XP at a discount.

Message edited by author 2006-12-07 18:15:03.
 12/07/2006 06:14:12 PM · #58
Originally posted by scalvert:


Thy glass art half empty. You can run it quickly under OS X and lightning-fast when the native version comes out... and who uses Photoshop with a trackpad anyway? Yuck.


Okay, so I can run it slower under OS X than on an equivalent windows machine, or I can pay an additional $299 now to dual boot and run it without using a wireless mouse (not supported in bootcamp) or partially functional trackpad in WinXP.

and then I can spend another $600 to upgrade to the decent mac version later.

I think that about sums it up pretty well.
12/07/2006 06:23:02 PM · #59
Originally posted by Gordon:
Does bootcamp provide driver support?


Not only does it offer support, it automatically checks your configuration and burns all necessary drivers to a CD so you don't have to go looking for them. The current version fully supports the trackpad and right-click. Switching OS is simply a matter of holding down the option key at startup. BootCamp is free, so you're only paying for Windows (which you presumably already have if you're scrapping an old PC. Net cost = zero).

Message edited by author 2006-12-07 18:26:05.
 12/07/2006 06:27:34 PM · #60
If a macbook is travelling at 600mph on a treadmill, and a jet-powered windows laptop is travelling the opposite direction at 600mph...
 12/07/2006 06:52:29 PM · #61
I don't want to dive into a PC vs Mac debate, but maybe I can bring up another perspective to focus on for a minute. Depending on how you shoot, a raw workflow solution like Aperature may have a significant impact on your overall photographic throughput.
 12/07/2006 07:17:03 PM · #62
Originally posted by Nusbaum:
Depending on how you shoot, a raw workflow solution like Aperature may have a significant impact on your overall photographic throughput.


Indeed, and that's the main reason I'm getting a MacBook and iMac... my G4s won't run Aperture. To be fair, Adobe Lightroom offers similar functionality for Windows, but the reviews I've seen give the nod to Aperture.
 12/07/2006 07:18:32 PM · #63
Get a Toughbook you can take it out in the field with you even in the rain drop it in a puddle kick it down the street to dry it off and it'll still run like a champ. Uhhh...except when Windows locks up, but that's not the 'puters fault
 12/07/2006 07:25:30 PM · #64
No Object?

Edit - $6485.14 With most options maxed.

Message edited by author 2006-12-07 19:29:13.
 12/07/2006 07:39:20 PM · #65
Originally posted by wavelength:
No Object?


Well, before you maxed the options the specs were similar to the mid-range MacBook Pro. The heavier Voodoo offers a somewhat better video card, but half the RAM, a smaller (albeit faster) HD, no iPhoto, no bluetooth and no backlit keyboard... for $400 more. Pretty colors, tho. ;-)
 12/07/2006 07:51:16 PM · #66
Honestly, I'd get the 13" Black Mac book.

I have a 20" widescreen LCD for detailed photo work and I don't want to lug around a huge laptop when I'm on the go. When I go mobile, small, light and good performance win out over huge heavy and screaming speed.

I'd prolly max out the RAM, the HD and get some nifty accessories.

12/07/2006 07:54:01 PM · #67
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by wavelength:
No Object?


Well, before you maxed the options the specs were similar to the mid-range MacBook Pro. The heavier Voodoo offers a somewhat better video card, but half the RAM, a smaller (albeit faster) HD, no iPhoto, no bluetooth and no backlit keyboard... for $400 more. Pretty colors, tho. ;-)


heh, I don't think reason and logic are involved when getting a Voodoo.
 12/07/2006 08:06:13 PM · #68
Definitly the E-Go Diamond Laptop .... here is the description of it....

E-Go Diamond laptop, inlaid with solid palladium white gold plates in which thousands of brilliant cut diamonds have been set. The quality of E-Go Diamond is stated as high class, and also the price: $336,557 USD.
The diamonds are microscopically and pave set with a surgical precision. Because of the different diameter cuts, the models obtained are elegant. Moreover, a square ruby is settled on the Tulip logo, on the interior and exterior of the
case.

The E-Go laptop is hand bag shaped and it is targeted at ladies, so, not exactly for gamers. Though, the specifications are good. The system is based on an AMD Turion 64 processor, with an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 graphic chipset and featuring 1 GB of DDR RAM PC3200 memory. The hard disk can store 100 GB SATA and the display is a 12.1 inch widescreen WHGA, supporting 1280 X 800 pixel resolution.

Also, a DVD-RW optical unit is available, a touch pad, a built in webcam with a LED illuminative point and a microphone for video and voice conferences. The connectivity is enabled by Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g, Bluetooth 1.2, the ExpressCard slot, by four USB 2.0 slots and the 10/100Base-T NIC. Additionally, VGA and S-Video port are available and a SD/MMC/MS/MS Duo card reader.
Tulip E-Go Diamond sound system is a 2.1 one stereo, while the battery has a four hour lifetime specification.

For the Tulip E-Go project, Beer Master Jewellery Designer worked closely together with Design Department product engineering and Marcel van Galen Design Laurent.
Tulip claims that the development of this laptop, together with the whole range of similar products from the company, though cheaper, aligns to the personalize tendency of portable devices, especially that laptops began to spread worldwide.
 12/07/2006 10:01:17 PM · #69
Dell XPS m1210

- Intel® Coreâ„¢ 2 Duo T7600 (2.33GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 667 MHz FSB)

- 4GB Shared Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz (2 Dimms)

- 100GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive

- 256MB NVIDIA® GeForceâ„¢ Go 7400 TurboCacheâ„¢

Its tiny and lightweight, but then get a nice (big) monitor and a docking station so you can plug it in and use it like a desktop when you aren't on the go.
 12/07/2006 10:16:04 PM · #70
$4,160 will get you;

ThinkPad T Series T60

Display type: 15.0 SXGA+ TFT Flexview Display with Wide Viewing Angle
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo processor T7600 (2.33GHz, 4MB L2, 667MHz FSB)
Total memory: 3 GB PC2-4200 DDR2 SDRAM 533MHz SODIMM Memory (2 DIMM)
System graphics: ATI Mobility Fire GL V5250 256MB
Hard drive: 100 GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm

Integrated WiFi wireless LAN: Integrated Wi-Fi Wireless a/b/g
Bluetooth: Integrated Bluetooth PAN
Operating system: Genuine Windows XP Professional
Fingerprint reader: Integrated fingerprint reader
Optical device: DVD Recordable 8x Max Dual Layer, Ultrabay Slim
Battery: 9 cell Li-Ion Battery
ThinkPad Advanced Dock with US/Canada/LA Line Cord
4-Year ThinkPad Protection with 1-Year to 4-Year IOR 9x5 NBD
 12/07/2006 10:16:51 PM · #71
Originally posted by bfox2:
Dell XPS m1210...


Holy #@%&$! That comes to over $5500!! Yeah, yeah... money is no object. Still, a 17" MacBook Pro with the same processor, 3Gb RAM, 100GB 7200RPM HD, 256MB Radeon WITH A 30" DELL WIDESCREEN LCD DISPLAY is $1000 cheaper. ($3274 if configured like the Thinkpad just posted). :-O

Message edited by author 2006-12-07 23:22:48.
 12/08/2006 01:17:08 AM · #72
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by bfox2:
Dell XPS m1210...


Holy #@%&$! That comes to over $5500!! Yeah, yeah... money is no object. Still, a 17" MacBook Pro with the same processor, 3Gb RAM, 100GB 7200RPM HD, 256MB Radeon WITH A 30" DELL WIDESCREEN LCD DISPLAY is $1000 cheaper. ($3274 if configured like the Thinkpad just posted). :-O


True but the XPS is so TINY! Only a 12in screen :) Plus you can't play and fun games on a mac without added hassle ;)

That'd be pretty nice to get a 30" LCD though...
 12/08/2006 11:47:49 AM · #73
I didn't go through every post, but has anyone had any experience with the toshiba laptops? I am kind of looking at one of those myself.
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