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10/12/2006 07:08:49 PM · #1
I am curious as to whether the lighting lll challenge is assuming that we can only use artificial lighting? I have a wonderfully dramatic shot that uses natural light, but don't know if it would get that horrible dnmc for not being artificial. Any guidance on this one?
10/12/2006 07:15:19 PM · #2
Any light source will do from what I read... just make sure the impact of the image is due to the lighting used.
:)
10/12/2006 07:28:46 PM · #3
I think the sun counts as a lighting source in this one.
10/12/2006 08:14:37 PM · #4
I hope so. I just bought a 5 in 1 reflector system.

Originally posted by Melethia:

I think the sun counts as a lighting source in this one.

10/12/2006 08:30:41 PM · #5
I feel very strongly that equal weight should be given to those who seek and depict perfect natural lighting, one of the hardest things to do in photography. I see nothing int he description that says otherwise.

R.
10/12/2006 08:53:17 PM · #6
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

I feel very strongly that equal weight should be given to those who seek and depict perfect natural lighting, one of the hardest things to do in photography. I see nothing int he description that says otherwise.

R.

Yeah, but you have way better natural lighting available to you than some of us. I speak from experience!
10/12/2006 09:29:50 PM · #7
I missed an incredible natural lighting opportunity this evening. There was a low layer of clouds covering the entire sky, except around the horizon. Just before the sunset, the sun came into the clear part of the sky. It was so sharp, and bright it made normal senery and trees glow like I have never seen before. The leaves are changing color here now, and it was really amazing. My wife and I were looking at it in amazement as we were driving. My daughter popped her head up from reading and was scared when she saw the glow. I can't describe it.

Of course, I didn't have my camera.
10/12/2006 09:33:30 PM · #8
Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

I feel very strongly that equal weight should be given to those who seek and depict perfect natural lighting, one of the hardest things to do in photography. I see nothing int he description that says otherwise.

R.

Yeah, but you have way better natural lighting available to you than some of us. I speak from experience!


Well sure, but I'm just hoping the voters aren't biased towards artificial and/or flashy light... "All we are saying is give landscapes a chance" as sung by the Beatles I think :-)

R.
10/12/2006 09:47:08 PM · #9
Not that my images are that great, but mine are usually natural light. Most of my favorites are. But... making it as an apparent element might not be as easy as just using it to its fullst advantage.

Oxymoron might be the way I go.
10/12/2006 09:51:02 PM · #10
There's nothing in the description that says anything about it needing to be artificial light. I'd probably caution you that a naturally-lighted scene could be viewed as a little lame by voters, unless the lighting really makes a dramatic effect in the scene, though.

I remember seeing many shots from previous lighting challenges that were nice shots and all, but didn't really emphasize any particular kind of lighting, and I voted accordingly.
10/13/2006 02:33:29 AM · #11
If anything I'd vote a dramatic naturally lit scene higher than a staged one. You only have a fleeting moment to capture some of the natural scenes.
10/13/2006 04:49:37 AM · #12
Originally posted by Bear_Music:


Well sure, but I'm just hoping the voters aren't biased towards artificial and/or flashy light... "All we are saying is give landscapes a chance" as sung by the Beatles I think :-)

R.


LOL. Give landscapes a chance? There has been 560 challenges to date and I believe a landscape has won 400 of those give or take a few. :P

Message edited by author 2006-10-13 04:51:37.
10/13/2006 04:57:05 AM · #13
Sometimes I just shake my head. I mean, come on people, how hard IS this?! The description says lighting, it doesn't say artificial, it doesn't say natural...it says lighting - period. Geez.

Description: Lighting is arguably the most important element in photography. Without light, you can't capture an image. Use lighting in a creative fashion this week so that the lighting itself is a key factor in your composition. Note: This does NOT mean the light source itself must be in your photo, although it may be if you wish.
10/13/2006 05:36:18 AM · #14
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Sometimes I just shake my head. I mean, come on people, how hard IS this?! The description says lighting, it doesn't say artificial, it doesn't say natural...it says lighting - period. Geez.

sometimes I wonder about the same thing, LOL
10/13/2006 09:35:55 AM · #15
In a word: Louis (he is the master of lighting)
10/13/2006 09:53:24 AM · #16
Oh, no! Is this going to be another challenge where a small group of people make up their own rules for the challenge? Way too many of these jury-rigged things recently.

Nothing, absolutely nothing, in the official challenge description says anything about natural or artificial. It's about time those who are applying their own narrower definitions to these challenges grew a conscience.
10/15/2006 12:49:43 PM · #17
I know that some people here know almost as much about etymology as they do about Woody Guthrie songs, but bear with me while I explain:
G. photographie [...] 1839 f. Gr phôto-, phôs light + -graphos written... Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology.

So photography is, etymologically, drawing or writing with light. That doesn't help a whole lot with interpretation of the challenge's intent, but it gives a distant perspective. Here, light is not only the means, but also the end. It may be simple or it may be damned nigh impossible to give an adequate response to the challenge, I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure that to produce a worthwhile picture with lighting that is of itself a worthwhile subject and that is a worthy entry to the challenge as well, is a hard challenge indeed. The origin of the light is irrelevant.
10/15/2006 03:19:27 PM · #18
I think that an interpretation of the contest only with artificial light is reductive. Even in the previous contests there are great images with natural lights. I fear that there will be many shots considered dnmc.

P.S. there is wind from north-east this evening and tomorrow I have a free day........... will see :)
10/15/2006 03:28:05 PM · #19
Here are the top 3 from the last lighting challenge.
Top 2 are natural lighting.
1st place (i think its mostly natural)

2nd place Natural

And my personal favorite in 3rd was not natural light. :)


Kev
10/15/2006 03:40:48 PM · #20
Well, I am sticking to what I originally started this thread about. I will take my lumps, or my accolades. It depends on how the image hits ya. Just hope I get more accolades than lumps.
10/16/2006 10:41:53 PM · #21
I am sooooooooooooo in! Thanks to a late-day model today, I was able to try something new. :)
10/16/2006 10:45:03 PM · #22
Originally posted by idnic:

I am sooooooooooooo in! Thanks to a late-day model today, I was able to try something new. :)


Did you stick the light source in the model's mouth?
10/16/2006 10:46:08 PM · #23
Originally posted by cryingdragon:

Originally posted by idnic:

I am sooooooooooooo in! Thanks to a late-day model today, I was able to try something new. :)


Did you stick the light source in the model's mouth?


That's for me to know and you to vote a 10 :P
10/16/2006 10:54:32 PM · #24
I'm in, but I'm fairly concerned. Not with the picture, I like that, but the challenge is really sorta nebulous. I'm not complaining about it, but I'm just not sure how voters will take my shot.

I'm going for it though...
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