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09/24/2006 05:51:18 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by theSaj:
There are just so many similarities:
- both art forms deal with "shooting"
- both covet the best glass.
- wide preference of grips
- both have to reload after x number of shots
- both are a pain to get thru airport security |
Rather clever comeback :) Pass the popcorn. |
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09/24/2006 06:02:22 PM · #52 |
oh well...lock it up if you feel the need, I will take no offense.
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09/24/2006 06:06:02 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by jbsmithana:
Originally posted by theSaj:
Handgun Questions:
I just got married and my mother-in-law has offered to buy my wife and I some handguns for a wedding present. These will be our first.
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Now that should take care of the seven year itch problem. |
Compounded by the fact that she is also a 4th degree black belt. |
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09/24/2006 06:17:07 PM · #54 |
Growing up in Texas, you'd think I had a clue or three about guns in general but the truth is, I've only held one pistol in my hand in my life and it was an antique that wasn't loaded...and I fired a 410 once and it knocked me on my @$$...of course I was about 13 at the time but it was enough to make me not want to touch another gun.
The older and less naive that I get, the more I think I want to learn to handle a handgun and perhaps get a concealed weapons permit. Now that my children are older, I feel more comfortable about the thought of having one in the house.
My question is this, for you seasoned gun gurus...what kind of handgun would be the best for a woman to learn to use and be able to use effectively if needed? Which guns have the best safety features (or are they all the same)? Like I said, I'm clueless so I am glad this thread came up. Any suggestions?
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09/24/2006 06:26:29 PM · #55 |
Back on the original topic, there is a LOT of misinformation on this topic on this thread.
Pistol magazines with capacities greater than 10 rounds were banned from sale or posession in 1994 as part of the "Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994".
Specifically excluded from the act were magazines legally owned before the act became law. Also excluded were law enforcement officers. So during the life of the Act pistol manufacurers still made and imported magazines with capacities greater than 10 rounds, but they were stamped or marked "LEO USE ONLY" or some variant of such.
The law had written into it a "sunset provision" that stated the law would become invalid 10 years after it was signed into law, unless passed again by congress. It was not renewed. In 2004 the ban expired.
There are four states with their own laws on the issue, PA is not one of them.
* CA - No magazines over 10 rounds.
* HI - No Magazines over 10 rounds.
* NJ - No magazines over 15 rounds.
* MD - No magazines over 20 rounds.
So now that the law has expired, as long as you don't live in one of those four states, you can own a handgun magazine of any capacity you want. I personally bought a pistol that originally belonged to a law enforcement agency, it's two 13 round magazines are stamped "LEO/GVMT USE ONLY", but there's absolutley nothing wrong with me owning them.
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09/24/2006 06:30:11 PM · #56 |
Boy am I glad I live in the UK!
Message edited by author 2006-09-24 18:30:33. |
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09/24/2006 06:34:13 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Growing up in Texas, you'd think I had a clue or three about guns in general but the truth is, I've only held one pistol in my hand in my life and it was an antique that wasn't loaded...and I fired a 410 once and it knocked me on my @$$...of course I was about 13 at the time but it was enough to make me not want to touch another gun.
The older and less naive that I get, the more I think I want to learn to handle a handgun and perhaps get a concealed weapons permit. Now that my children are older, I feel more comfortable about the thought of having one in the house.
My question is this, for you seasoned gun gurus...what kind of handgun would be the best for a woman to learn to use and be able to use effectively if needed? Which guns have the best safety features (or are they all the same)? Like I said, I'm clueless so I am glad this thread came up. Any suggestions? |
I found this article, I skimmed it and agree with a lot of what is says. I'd recommend a 9mm if you feel you can handle it... if not go for a .357/.38.
As far as safety goes, (and the arcitle mentions this) revolvers tend to have heavier triggers, so they're less likely to dicharge on accident. Some semis, though, have extra safety features like a grip safety, so it won't fire unless you're holding it... |
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09/24/2006 06:37:09 PM · #58 |
Then, to go off topic...
The average response time in the United States, from the time the call is dispatched, to the time the officer is at your door is 6 minutes. That doesn't include the time it takes you to call 911 and talk to the operator.
Now, let's all play a little game.
Close your eyes.
Think of the most horrible, repugnant, evil, awful thing possible happening to you, or someone you love. Mothers, think of your kids being held hostage in a preschool. Husbands, think of your wives being raped in an alley.
Now keep thinking about that thing for 6 minutes. Then open your eyes. The police just arrived.
I refuse to be a victim.
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09/24/2006 06:45:12 PM · #59 |
Laurie,
The 9mm is considered a decent personal protection round. The .380 is considered weak by many, but I rather have it than nothing if the fit hit the shan. What most people think about is "felt recoil" or how much the pistol jerks your hand around. This often has just as much to do with the size and weight of the pistol as it does the caliber.
The best saftey in the entire world is your brain. Keep the gun locked up in a small pistol safe or with a trigger lock when you aren't using it. Keep your finger off the trigger unless you're pointing it at something you want to shoot.
Heavier trigger pulls, mechanical safetys, etc. are all secondary to your brain. They will make a gun no more or less safe based on their presence or absence.
Many public shooting ranges have rental guns, or will let you 'test fire' used guns in their inventory. Try as many as you can and see what feels good to you.
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09/24/2006 06:46:38 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by deapee:
oh yeah...I was going to mention that too...
I was looking at the revolvers, and they just seem so time-consuming. With my set up, I have a holster and a little clip that holds 2 magazines. So I can basically fire 16 shots non-stop, reload in a fairly quick amount of time, fire 16 more shots, reload, then fire 16 more off...that's a lot of shots lol.
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Deapee
I live in Philadelphia, and have been shooting and reloading for years. For home defence I use an Astra 9mm with 5 rounds in the clip. Back up is a 12 guage with safety slugs. I suggest you take the NRA safety cource. Also obtain a CCP from the PD in you area. You may want to rethink having 16 rounds in a clip for home defence.
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09/24/2006 07:00:05 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by livitup:
Then, to go off topic...
The average response time in the United States, from the time the call is dispatched, to the time the officer is at your door is 6 minutes.
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I made three calls to 9-11 last summer.
1) Because a jeep came barrelling down our road swerving, almost rolled over and barely missed 6 cars. And had it been 5 minutes earlier when my neighbors kids were playing on the sidewalk would have put them in jeopardy.
NO RESPONSE BY POLICE
2) A fight was heard beneath a nearby school building deck. We heard screams, breaking of glass. We were unsure if someone had been hurt. One neighbor asked "do we need to call the police" and receive a response of "yes...call the police". We sat for hours not sure if someone was dead beneath the building or if there was a threat.
NO RESPONSE BY POLICE
3) I was at a mobil gas station. A large man who was clearly a bit drunk was upset because a black gentlemen had not moved forward enough for his big cadillac to reach the pump. The man then came in and was very belligerent to the cashier (a small short hispanic woman) and made violent threats (including a death threat toward the woman). I quietly moved to the back of the store and called 9-11.
I was basically told "It's New Haven...what'd'you want us to do about it?" And dismissed...
So for all those who are against guns...please just tell me who the heck I am supposed to trust? |
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09/24/2006 07:06:32 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by Phillydigishooter:
You may want to rethink having 16 rounds in a clip for home defence.
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Nice shot. :)
Why the advice above? I've always been a fan of having a backup magazine, incase of magazine failure (rare, but hey, so would actually needing to use my weapon anyway), but I've never heard of intentionally limiting yourself to fewer rounds.
I personally have 13+1 rounds of .40 S&W plus a spare 13 rounds on me when I'm out and about.
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09/24/2006 07:09:16 PM · #63 |
I forgot to mention in my first post on the law, that if anyone in the US is wondering about their state's particular laws, //www.packing.org is an excellent reference site. They have a little box on the left side of their homepage where you can pick your state from a drop down, and get comprehensive details on your state's laws regarding purchase, posession, transportation, and carrying handguns.
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09/24/2006 07:49:29 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by livitup:
Originally posted by Phillydigishooter:
You may want to rethink having 16 rounds in a clip for home defence.
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Nice shot. :)
Why the advice above? I've always been a fan of having a backup magazine, incase of magazine failure (rare, but hey, so would actually needing to use my weapon anyway), but I've never heard of intentionally limiting yourself to fewer rounds.
I personally have 13+1 rounds of .40 S&W plus a spare 13 rounds on me when I'm out and about. |
As I stated home defence, not out and about. Also if you need to draw your weapon you better make the first shot count, and be prepared to pay the consequences for your actions Self-defence shootings occur with in 5 feet, this is why only 5 rounds. |
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09/24/2006 07:51:03 PM · #65 |
| A perfectly legitimate question was proposed, discussed, and mostly answered. This should end the bickering. |
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